"Take me There - M'amenez-y" - Francis Picabia
I wish I could have asked the girl of all the longings of her heart. She looked for a long time at the Duchamp's wheel and I left on tip toes.
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I tend to mark down for museum shots because the environment has been designed by someone else. For example, it's not a coincidence that these two wheels are next to each other.
My answer: they are not. They exist in the same room though.
(quote)Aligning the wheels would only emphasize the fact that this environment is not yours.
Quoting Gide (in my own quick translation): "Everything had been said already - but since nobody listens we always have to start anew." Of course that, to some extent, you are right but don't you prefer sometimes your own shots of an art work to the ones in an album? You fix the fleeting moment, your reaction to it, your way of looking, the temperature, the light and all the rest that can transpires in your photograph. I was interested in the visual sparks of the two wheels touching, which one cannot see unless one is arranging oneself to see it. An endless discussion.
As to your 7, I am honored. Have troubles with the voting system, marks, etc. Being an artist myself I have a problem with public approval or general agreement anyway (and am weary of it) but in this medium it is more bearable, I think. I consider myself an enthusiastic novice in photography per se, a learner with a trained eye.
Duchamp would love this photo, I'm pretty sure.
I am not sure he would have approved his wheel next to Piacabia's in the same room, unless I am missing some specific history!
The 7: I tend to mark down for museum shots because the environment has been designed by someone else. For example, it's not a coincidence that these two wheels are next to each other. Aligning the wheels would only emphasize the fact that this environment is not yours.
But capturing this woman in this environment is very special, and also resonates with Duchamp's work. For example, it had never occurred to me before that his bicycle wheel is transparent, just like his glass works are. Only with a transparent work can we see the work and the viewer at the same time, seeing the viewer through the art.
I suppose that if it was flawless you could have marked it more than 7. Just kidding!
I took several shots without people waiting for someone to appear and perhaps have the two wheels almost tangent. Like here: oops I don't know how to upload another picture here. I'll send it to your email.
Many thanks to all for the comments.
Yes, it was a candid photo. Thus multiple flaws. But I never use models and am very shy to photograph people although, the ones in museums are too tempting to pass. I have this fantasy that I can ask people in the subway to tell me their life stories. The only thing I do is peek at their reading. And my neck got crooked.
What I like most about this is that you've managed to reduce the wheel in prominence physically but maintain it conceptually and visually. I very much like the composition, the wheel and the pseudo wheel, and having the girl in the frame really sets this one apart, particularly her reserved pose. One of my favorites.
I don't know how I feel about this one. It's definitely more "arty" than most of the other submissions, which is neither good nor bad. What I just cant figure out is where my eyes are supposed to rest. First they go to the girl, then to the wheel and then to the painting. I think the painting and the wheel compliment one another superbly, and would do great together as a "minimalist" duo, but in honesty I feel the girl is a distraction. Nonetheless, I gave a 7 :)
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