Yeah...I prolly sold out a bit with this one. I'd do it again, too ;)
Given that this is an online *contest* it seems to me that the goal would be to win - or to try at least. That means going for mass appeal, and in this case I think a more commercial approach to the challenge made sense (and looking at the top scoring images I'd say I guessed correctly).
All that said, this isn't my favourite personal style of shot...but typically I don't submit my *favourite* stuff to challenges, because what I like doesn't tend to have mass appeal.
So yeah - I stooped a little. But I make no apologies for it. I set out to win a ribbon and a bet with Kiwi - and I did both of those things, so I'm content.
My January free-study is another story. I went against the theory and submitted something I LOVE over one that would likely have scored better - don't think you'll see me on the front page of that one :P
thanks for all the comments - both in favour and against the shot...I appreciate it all.
P-ness
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I wont be pretending, ill just say should be said. That is a hell of a body with two hell of a tits. The model abviously knows this (this is a self photograph) and is proud, she eas all rights to do so. the attitude shows that as well. I think that most hetrosexual men would agree with me when i say that i would have nothing against sleeping with that model, she looks really good.
I really like this photo but I feel you missed something here. She has very fine body lines and I would think that as beautiful to the eye as she is there is more you could do with her besides put her in a typical college boy turn on pose. You are a very good photographer I can see that but try her in something a little more natural next time.
I think you ALL have it wrong. Oman Otter, while you make a good arguement, I think the wording should be STUNNING tits. They certainly are.
And Pedro, from the photography standpoint, very well done. Let's just all agree that this is appealing on many levels. Look at how many views "nudes" gets anyway on the DPC menu anyway.
I think this photo is fantastic, the lighting is perfect and I have to agree with OmanOtter, the surgeon did nice work. lol
The lighting on her right hand is a bit bright but I don't think it distracts the viewer from the focus of the photo at all. I do think the word "tits" demeans this photograph in all ways. Breasts would be a more classy and I feel appropriate term. :) It is very nicely done.
I can accept all that. And it IS an excellent photo -- masterfully presented. But you could make an awful lot of money marketing it to college-age men - even more if you re-shoot it with her holding a bottle of beer. And that's the thrust of my defense of Hughie's comment. I know that you, as photographer, want feedback on how well or poorly you photographed her. But you chose her for a purpose, and you posed her the way you did for a purpose. You achieved what you set out for -- which is much more than to just shoot a good photo. Your photo appeals to the core of (especially young) male sexual desire. You reached into our collective male libido and smacked us over the head with our deepest desires. If all Hughie could manage to get out was a breathless "Nice tits!", it's no wonder. His brain was probably on overload and it was all the poor guy could muster. I can't say I blame him.
And, yes, it's also because you presented and captured her attributes so damn well. She doesn't get all the credit, and neither does her surgeon! You crafted the presentation and captured the scene. Well done.
don't get me wrong - I'm not denying that at all. Obviously she was chosen with a purpose. Of course I want you to *think* that when you see it. However, my interest still lies in the photograph when it comes to the comments I receive. I don't need someone to point out her finer features - I'm fully aware of what they are. I want to know if I presented them well - is it well lit? Is it sharp enough to satisfy people around here? Could I have done it any better? I know what i'm trying to represent, and I want to know if I did it successfully. A simple two words telling me what they think about her does nothing to help me with that. If it were a horrific photo, she'd still have nice ones.
And IF they're only compelled to make comments about the subject and ignore the photo, I'd hope they would have a bit tact than the comment in question. I believe your assessment of the photo is correct - but i still don't care if someone thinks she has nice tits. I appreciate your input either way. :)
Forgive me for being skeptical about some of this, but I believe that if a photographer only cares about lighting, exposure, etc..., then it is unlikely that s/he will choose a model whose physical beauty is so exceptional. You can take just as perfect a photo with what Fotomann describes as an "untraditional model." I have seen several such photos and none of them score well. Now, there are many wonderful nudes out there with beautiful models where my reaction would be more in line with what some of you are saying. I have and usually do comment on those kinds of nudes in the more socially tasteful way that some of the commenters here are asking for. However, my point here is that this photo is not such a shot. This photo, in my opinion, is the kind of thing that college age men hang on their walls as a poster. So it evokes exactly the response given by Hughie.
Nice photo. Well done photographically. But there is another aspect to this that we seem to want to deny.
I have to disagree. In this case, with this particular picture, "Nice tits!" is probably the most apt and honest comment a heterosexual man could make. The nature of this picture is such that "Beautiful breasts" "wonderful model" "nice hair" etc... would all just be euphemisms for what any heterosexual man would really be thinking -- "Nice tits!" Yes, that's what this shot is all about. And I think that's what it's purpose was -- not that there's anything wrong with that. It's a fantastic photo, and, yes, those are some damn nice tits!
I appreciate the point you're trying to make...and IF it were a tit-judging contest, then yes - that would be an apt comment (and yes...they ARE :)). however, in a photography competition I'm more interested in how they're presented photographically than I am in how they're formed structurally.
Frankly I'm not that concerned with how anyone feels about her glandular appointment.
I thought this was a competition, with like real comments from real photographers. i like the composition. The lighting is good but the hands may be a bit bright. A little distracting. But a good photo of form and lighting even though. As far as the t... go well bring yourselves out of the dark and give some real critiques.
"tits"... I hate that damn word! guys can be so damn....not classy sometimes. That word should be banned from male vocabulary...sorry am I starting an argument here? Sorry. I'll stop.
I have to disagree. In this case, with this particular picture, "Nice tits!" is probably the most apt and honest comment a heterosexual man could make. The nature of this picture is such that "Beautiful breasts" "wonderful model" "nice hair" etc... would all just be euphemisms for what any heterosexual man would really be thinking -- "Nice tits!" Yes, that's what this shot is all about. And I think that's what it's purpose was -- not that there's anything wrong with that. It's a fantastic photo, and, yes, those are some damn nice tits!
Nahhhh...no sell out here. This image, is a world class image, right down to the light breaking off of the...left...right...left..right (pawdrix is doing somersault's) nipple. I'm awed by what you can do.
"tits"... I hate that damn word! guys can be so damn....not classy sometimes. That word should be banned from male vocabulary...sorry am I starting an argument here? Sorry. I'll stop.
If a case of beer had been on the line, I'd have done the same thing :)
Originally posted by Pedro:
Originally posted by Artyste:
I have to agree with rscorp with the whole "Joe Six-Pack" thing.. but hey, I *also* know that sometimes "You do what it takes".
Not that I'm not disappointed at the stooping ;)
I don't disagree with this or Robert's comments at all - it was a conscious decision to go mainstream on this one...partly as a test of my commercial skills (since I do shoot this kind of thing commercially now) and partly cuz I just felt like it.
Fear not, regular P-stuff will be forthcoming :)
I would have done the same thing for a box of cracker jacks.
mmmm... cracker jacks.
If a case of beer had been on the line, I'd have done the same thing :)
Originally posted by Pedro:
Originally posted by Artyste:
I have to agree with rscorp with the whole "Joe Six-Pack" thing.. but hey, I *also* know that sometimes "You do what it takes".
Not that I'm not disappointed at the stooping ;)
I don't disagree with this or Robert's comments at all - it was a conscious decision to go mainstream on this one...partly as a test of my commercial skills (since I do shoot this kind of thing commercially now) and partly cuz I just felt like it.
I have to agree with rscorp with the whole "Joe Six-Pack" thing.. but hey, I *also* know that sometimes "You do what it takes".
Not that I'm not disappointed at the stooping ;)
I don't disagree with this or Robert's comments at all - it was a conscious decision to go mainstream on this one...partly as a test of my commercial skills (since I do shoot this kind of thing commercially now) and partly cuz I just felt like it.
Pedro, I'm going to have to be the odd man out here. I love your photography a lot because you capture so much emotion and personality in the people you photograph. This one to me, while technically fantastic, looked like an appeal to Joe Six-Pack.
I mean, the lighting, colors, etc are fantastic. Technically you couldn't have done a better job. But to me it doesn't come close to having the soul or artistic feel your shots usually have. This looks like a shot for the Maxim or a men's calendar or something like that. I hate to be the lonely voice that wasn't thrilled with the photo, but I figured I'd give you my opinion anyway.
Great model and light. Pose is excellent as well. Part of me wants to see more of her face, but it works without that as well. Nice warm rich tones. You did it P'.
I loved this shot when i first saw it and love it even more now. Her pose is spot on, the outfit is very sexy imo ;) I love the cowgirls lol. Lighting is great. A+ ;) Gratz again
From the lighting, the composition, to the pose, to the uhm, lighting, this is a fantastic image. This is in my top 3. Totally could be a professional magazine shot.
An awesome image! Love the lighting and the colours. The pose is perfect, a bit of wind helps add some movement. composition is great. I guess I'm trying to say it's one of my top picks.
I really like the crop of this shot. The lighting is very good. I like the dark/contrasty feel. The pose is great and I like the pants/shirt/hat she is wearing. I like her blowing hair as well. Good job.
I like the lighting, pose with the windblown hair is fun. Something sexy about a lady in a cowboy hat and jeans.. its simple, down home kinda sexy. Of course the body is tight and firm and the shadows / highlights play beautifully off that.
Ride 'em cowboy ;) I really like this, although there could have been a tad more lighting on the right side (her right), She has quite an amazing body and it is shown well in this picture. 7
Yowza... fantastic model and an excellent shot. Wonderfully lit, too. She may not be wearing much now, but I suspect she'll be wearing a ribbon at the end of the voting! - 10
even though this is a perfect photo technically, it's a bit too much fashion for me. or maybe a bit too much in-your-face. not sure. but, bacause it's technically well done, a high vote from me.
Very profound and sexy. I'm not sure if it was your intention or not but I like the way her (viewer's left) right nipple caught a highlight against the shadow and her hair seems to be blowing. Tastefully well don w/wonderful light! Good job!
I love the lighting and the color of the back drop. Perfect choices for the models hair & skin color. Plus, she's stunning so that seems to help too.
;-). This is a 10 for me.
the lighting is impeccable as wells as focus and composition. However for a nude challenge she sure has quite abit of clothes on :P. In all seriousness, it is a really good study in the human form, I hope this does well for you.
more cheese cake than traditional nude study has that buy me feel about it just a little uncomfortable with this, others would disagree,It rates high with me on the technical ability side with good lighting and composition 8
awesome, maybe a ribbon... only thing I'm not so sure about is the white border so far down from the top, I see you wanted it evenly spaced with the bottom, but it comes too close on her hat, great colors, comp., model, pose, lighting, etc though, 10
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