Never seems to end around these parts when some want to attack and nit-pick great image - sheesh.
The credibility of the photographer comes under scrutiny as to what the environment was/wasn't here, and if it was titled as a Victoria Herbal Doctor, then so be it.
None of us were there and if this is the environment the subject was represented, then so be it.
I applaud Lesley for retaining her composure once again under fire and shame on some in the community for the public derogatory comments concerning this truly outstanding portrait.
This is also one of the reasons more and more people *aren't* commenting. Because if they have a different opinion, they are jumped on.
Is this a great environmental portrait? Perhaps. Majority thinks so, but it is still art, and in that context, cutter has as much right to think the way he does as the 100 people that think otherwise. It seems to me that more energy is spent putting commenters down sometimes than it is spent commenting.. which is a vicious cycle.
Cutter had an opinion and concern, he voiced it. Either agree or don't agree, but there really isn't anything *derogatory* in the comment, and "truly outstanding portrait" is subjective.
We need to embrace the diversity of the people on DPC and how they view our works.. not only for the people that finish low or middle-ground, but also for the people that finish high. Even the highest scoring image in the world is going to have people that dislike it, and for perfectly valid reasons. It's time to stop hating commentors that don't fit into the "wow, great shot" mold on every ribbon winner.
Never seems to end around these parts when some want to attack and nit-pick great image - sheesh.
The credibility of the photographer comes under scrutiny as to what the environment was/wasn't here, and if it was titled as a Victoria Herbal Doctor, then so be it.
None of us were there and if this is the environment the subject was represented, then so be it.
I applaud Lesley for retaining her composure once again under fire and shame on some in the community for the public derogatory comments concerning this truly outstanding portrait.
05/23/2006 10:26:59 AM
Although the shot is ribbon worthy, I agree with cutter on the facts of his case. This is a woman standing in front of sacks. Could have had the title "sack stacker" or "sack folder".
good point, that would have solved everything.
funny how some people worked it out.
Although the shot is ribbon worthy, I agree with cutter on the facts of his case. This is a woman standing in front of sacks. Could have had the title "sack stacker" or "sack folder".
Originally posted by Cutter:
The thing that concerns me with this picture is the fact there is absolutely nothing that would assist me in understanding she is an "herbal doctor". So as an environmental portrait, I believe this is a failure...In light of challenge description of framework of the subject's environs, all I gather is she likes to stand in front of sacks...Any one else see this?
The thing that concerns me with this picture is the fact there is absolutely nothing that would assist me in understanding she is an "herbal doctor". So as an environmental portrait, I believe this is a failure...In light of challenge description of framework of the subject's environs, all I gather is she likes to stand in front of sacks...Any one else see this?
No...I don't see this at all. In fact I'm quite certain it doesn't matter whether or not YOU get it at all. The *point* of the environmental portrait genre is that it's a portrait, shot in the subjects' natural environment. It clearly says that the portrait should say something about the SUBJECT in the framework of their environment, not necessarily about the environment itself.
It's these types of (mis)interpretations that frustrate the hell out of me when it comes to DP.
I see a very good technical portrait, set in her natural environment. it speaks to me about her, and in that - it is a success. standing in front of sacks may well be the point.
The thing that concerns me with this picture is the fact there is absolutely nothing that would assist me in understanding she is an "herbal doctor". So as an environmental portrait, I believe this is a failure...In light of challenge description of framework of the subject's environs, all I gather is she likes to stand in front of sacks...Any one else see this?
I said during voting that I hoped you finished in the top 5...well done on the red ribbon Lesley! Yet another masterpiece image...great celebrations for SA!!!
Outstanding details and wonderful light (especially in her eyes). I would be interested in seeing this full frame. I find environmental protraits often work better in full frame.
You know what else you do Leslie, square crops. I think you are big on those. Excellent portrait, but I'm not sure without the title I could have guessed much about her. I would have guessed cook with the white on her face being flour. 6
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