I just loved this shot, I hope it is not very dissapointing when people notice this is not really the moon but the sun. I just think this is one of my most beautiful shots. Hope you all like it, and hope not to get bashed by bird lovers who know birds don't usually fly at night hehe ;)
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After Challenge:
+Now I know some birds DO fly at night
+ Just for the record, don't forget this thread
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Hello. Congratulations on your ribbon. You have received many comments on your image and many of your commentors can give you better technical advice than I can, so I will not attempt to do so here.
Oddly enough (and as I mentioned in a thread somewhere relating to this image) birds do fly at night, especially large birds during the migratory seasons. The heat of the sun would dehydrate the birds quickly and they could not travel the long miles they do if they attempted to migrate during the daylight.
Anyhow, this is a competent and compelling image and you were nicely rewarded for it.
I wish you continued success in your DPC Challenges.
The description did not say "Take a shot that LOOKS as if it was taken between 4 and 5 am."
So if the opposite had happened.... someone awoke at 4 am and took a picture indoors that had no illusion of any time of day, but then told you that it was most definitely taken at 4 am and thus fits the challenege...then that would have been ok?
All I have to say is... it's 4am somewhere.
Great photo!
I guess the results will stand, but I am very disappointed to learn that the shot was not taken between 4 and 5 AM. Kind of seems like cheating to me.
This may alienate some fellow DPC-ers but so be it.
All those who complain so loudly about the "time" aspect of your photograph overlook an immensely important fact: Nowhere in the description of the challenge is a time zone specified. So 4am or 5am in one place is some other time somewhere else. It's all relative and really doesn't matter one bit. You made a BEAUTIFUL image by creating a great illusion - pretty much what photography (other than the strictest scientific or forensic kind) is all about, wouldn't you say??
Awesome picture. Despite the fact that it wasn't taken between 4-5 blah blah blah, it was very deserving of the ribbon. One of my favorite shots ever on this site.
this is just a beautiful image! sorry to see all the fuss over your entry because you posted that it is actually an illusion of early morning. hope it does not deter your love of this image it's wonderful!
Whether or not a shot meets a challenge is a big part of my grading. Personally, regardless of the technical legality of the shot, I feel misled. The description did not say "Take a shot that LOOKS as if it was taken between 4 and 5 am." This challenge was honor code, people.
I gave this shot a high score, but had I known when it was actually taken I would have given it a low one. I'm guessing enough people would have that it would not have ribboned.
Enjoy it while it lasts. I really don't think the ribbon for this one will stand. Challenge very clearly states that the image had to be taken between 4 and 5 am. That said, it is a beautiful shot. It just doesn't follow challenge guidelines one bit and cheats everyone who their got ass out of bed to take a shot between 4 and 5 am. It will fail inspection on EXIF alone.
Not meeting the challenge is no grounds for DQ. Since the 4am-5am statement was in the challenge description, and not under any "Extra Rules", the photo will be allowed to stand if no actual rules are broken.
This is a great shot no doubt, just disappointed in you blowing off the spirit of the challenge.....Take pride in the shot, hope you can take pride in the ribbon.....(sorry, just my opinion)
Enjoy it while it lasts. I really don't think the ribbon for this one will stand. Challenge very clearly states that the image had to be taken between 4 and 5 am. That said, it is a beautiful shot. It just doesn't follow challenge guidelines one bit and cheats everyone who their got ass out of bed to take a shot between 4 and 5 am. It will fail inspection on EXIF alone.
congrats to you. i hope all the controversy and hand-wringing over this challenge doesn't prevent others from sharing in the magic that captured the voters attention. it caught mine, and i'm happy for you.
This topic has been previously discussed but I want to make things clear from my point of view:
Photography is all about the illusion and the story that a photo can tell. If a photo tells the right story then it fits the challenge. Else we have seen lots of great photos hammered for DNMC. I know there are a lot of nazis around looking for 'integrity' and exact fullfilness of the topics... but I see 350+ voters who did choose this one as a good ribbon for the challenge. So I say no matter what we can argue about in this forum, 350+ people chose this shot (and other so-called 'cheaters') in good places.
We could call scalvert a cheater for using glue instead of milk in this photo but it really is something we could all learn from. Thinking out of the box, creating the reality that the eye wants to see, rather than showing the actual reality... after all, are we not in an art's site?. Beauty has to be captured wherever it is found, we cannot let our creative process be restricted but comply to the challenge descriptions (thats why this is based on challenges).
One thing I have learned on DPC is to look at reality through a different eye... more like the photograper eye or even more, like the viewer's eye, in this shot I just wanted to recreate the avid search of '4-5 am reality' that we all were looking for, it looks that I succeded and feel happy about it.
I humbly say that I am not a good photographer and I have nothing to teach to any of you, I apologize to all of you who feel cheated by my post and I also apologize to those who felt their shot would have more 'rightfuly' placed 3rd. I placed the truth in my photo description so that everyone would be able to know what this shot was actually about.
If it's any consolation I did get up at 4am to pos-process this shot ;) j/k
Thank you all for your high votes, Im happy for my 3rd ribbon this year!! :) way to gooo! ;)
If, as you tell us, this image was not taken between 4 and 5 am then it is cheating!. I don't know how you can accept the ribbon and feel good about yourself.
The Challenge was "Set your alarm, and take a picture between 4:00 and 5:00 AM."... No way does a picture takem outside of those hours qualify for anything (other than a 1!)
Someone who did get up in the middle of the night has been denied recognition of their efforts. This stinks!
Dude, chill a little... It's a photography site. What you see is what you get. If people saw this shot and saw 4-5am then that's the reality of the shot... BTW It's only an electronic ribbon that dissapears when you turn off your computer... Be careful or you'll blow an important vein...
patrinus. I'm not sure about how you achieved this result, but assuming it's legal, congrats on the yellow!
If, as you tell us, this image was not taken between 4 and 5 am then it is cheating!. I don't know how you can accept the ribbon and feel good about yourself.
The Challenge was "Set your alarm, and take a picture between 4:00 and 5:00 AM."... No way does a picture takem outside of those hours qualify for anything (other than a 1!)
Someone who did get up in the middle of the night has been denied recognition of their efforts. This stinks!
It's nicely done, and congratulations. I confess to disappointment that a shot that was obviously done in full daylight took a ribbon, but I'm aware of the tumultuous debate on the "spirit" of this challenge, and I don't begrudge the voters their collective opinion nor you your ribbon :-)
such an awesome shot! You got lucky getting the bird and the sun to line up correctly and having the right focus and everything! This must have taken a long time. 10 all the way
Looks like this belongs on the cover of a vampire novel! Very effective. My personal opinion is that the left side of the picture isn't contributing anything and that the picture works well as a vertical. 8
Pretty cool but the overexposed moon isn´t very good looking. I know this is an almost impossible image to make within the basic editing rules but I would have liked this shot much better with the silhouette of the bird, the sky slightly brighter but still moody and the moon correctly exposed. Still very nice, I gave it a 6.
simply incredible. i am quite sure you are sitting on pins & needles on this, wishing the voting would end RIGHT NOW! i am also quite sure that you really enjoyed being out, because isn't the type of shot you plan. awesome work, making the most of the moment. hope you are well-rewarded for your effort.
Shucks, if that's a real bird that's a fantastic shot. it's too bad it wasn't more in front of the moon, but that's pretty badasssss d00d. i give you a seven
i really enjoy the mood in this image. All that i would cange would be the branch (?) doged a little lighter to match the sky arounded it (iif it was advanced that is)
Moonlight Serenade
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