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we pretend xy is xx, so let's pretend orange is blue as well!
we pretend xy is xx, so let's pretend orange is blue as well!
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Challenge: Blue V (Expert Editing)
Camera: Pentax K-3
Lens: Pentax SMC DA 35mm f2.4 AL
Date: Jun 17, 2015
Date Uploaded: Jun 18, 2015

 We'll see if this makes it through the week. I know it's a little edgy, not in content, but in meaning. This is certainly no insult to Bruce/Caitlin Jenner or anyone else who has undergone such a process. If he wants to live as a woman, that is completely his choice. However, no matter what apparel, drugs, hormones or surgeries are done to him he will not actually be a woman. He was born with xy chromosomes and will never be xx. This is a scientific reality, not an insult or a denigration to any person.

This is a political commentary on the increased awareness his case has brought about with "gender reassignment" and the implied societal demand that all people must accept the illusion as reality.

On the color wheel, blue is opposite of orange (red+yellow), so to make the commentary work, this "blue" shot had to be orange.

I did read the site rules and deliberated on this before submission, but based on rule 4.2, this does not violate any of the objective criteria of that rule. That someone could claim a subjective violation is always possible, but this is no different than comments made in the forums on this issue, religious issues, or any others.

I can only hope this is being read by the SC during the challenge or the members afterward and this image is allowed to remain.

[Jun. 19th, 2015 12:53:15 PM]

Amazing... I expect a photo to score well, it scores poorly. I expect a photo to score poorly and it scores better than expected. 12 hours in and at a 3.5 with 5 comments. A few saying they actually LIKE the image.

What's funny (to me) is that the balls and glue bottom tops are orange. I'd originally planned this image and message. As I started to make the image though, I though "Go ahead and do it in blue!" I converted all the orange objects to blue. So I did and didn't like it all that much. So I went back to plan A and converted them all back to orange again. And now people might have actually liked the abstractness of the image itself, lol... Guess I'll post the other to the outtakes.

[Jun. 25th, 2015 11:57:02 PM]

Okie doke... some good comments Amazing to me. 3.26 as I write this. I can live with that as scores are nothing compared to artistic expression.

Here's the blue version, done after so many liked the actual image, though not the message...



[Jun. 25th, 2015 11:58:56 PM]

It's also not an intolerant photo as commented. To tolerate something, by definition, you must disagree with it. Acceptance is not tolerance by any stretch of the imagination.

Statistics
Place: 60 out of 60
Avg (all users): 3.2857
Avg (commenters): 3.2500
Avg (participants): 3.2903
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Canon Canon 1d x Mark II
Sigma 85mm f/1.4 FG HSM Art
 06/27/2015 09:41:44 PM
And then you probably heard about that white woman who identified herself as a black woman yeah well you know the list can go on and on and on and on, it's gonna get a whole lot worse before it gets better!
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Pentax K-1
Pentax FA 50mm f/1.4 AF
 06/27/2015 12:08:25 PM
Originally posted by Neat:
Did you know that those who went ahead with the surgery afterwards actually still felt just as depressed as they did beforehand, that's bc it's not a biological problem but a mental health issue.

Pity I didn't really pay attention to this whilst voting I skipped it.


I know. If someone went around and "identified" as Napoleon, we would not just pretend he was Napoleon, and would most likely get him help to correct the actual problem. But for some reason in these cases, we throw off all common sense and let them indulge their fantasy (which is fine) but are forced to all play along (which is not).
Canon Canon 1d x Mark II
Sigma 85mm f/1.4 FG HSM Art
 06/27/2015 08:31:49 AM
Did you know that those who went ahead with the surgery afterwards actually still felt just as depressed as they did beforehand, that's bc it's not a biological problem but a mental health issue.

Pity I didn't really pay attention to this whilst voting I skipped it.
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 Comments Made During the Challenge
Canon EOS-40D
Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II
 06/25/2015 09:41:12 PM
intolerant but at least you put some thought into the photo
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Canon EOS R5
Canon RF 100-500mm f/4.5-7.1 L IS USM
 06/25/2015 11:27:42 AM
Or not
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Canon EOS-450D Rebel XSi
Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 II
 06/21/2015 04:50:37 PM
To me, DNMC.
  Photographer found comment helpful.
Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark II
Olympus 60mm f/2.8 Macro M.Zuiko Digital ED
 06/20/2015 10:07:14 PM
Let's not.
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Nikon D7100
Nikon AF Nikkor 85mm f/1.8D
 06/20/2015 09:17:08 AM
Good shoehorn and good try with the title but I think this will not fair well. I'll still give you the above average 6 score however.
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Nikon D3300
Nikon AF-S DX Zoom Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6G VR
 06/20/2015 12:40:52 AM
DNMC - don't see a spec of blue here ("It's all about the color blue...")
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Nikon D750
Nikon AF-S Nikkor 17-35mm f/2.8D IF-ED
 06/19/2015 03:07:34 PM
Good luck with that, LOL
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Nikon D5600
 06/19/2015 02:11:18 PM
C'mon...blue's blue! Enter this in the "orange" challenge.
  Photographer found comment helpful.
Canon EOS R5
Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0 L IS II USM Lens
 06/19/2015 01:27:49 PM
Let's pretend I gave you a 10...
  Photographer found comment helpful.
Canon RP
Canon RF 35mm f/1.8 IS Macro
 06/19/2015 12:04:53 PM
I guess I'll be your next DNMC comment. So I won't leave a comment. A 6 from me because actually, I like it :)
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Canon EOS-5D Mark II
Tamron SP 24-70mm f/2.8 Di VC USD Canon Mount
06/19/2015 10:51:14 AM
if only it could stand on its own without the title.
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Canon EOS-5D
Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM
 06/19/2015 08:33:57 AM
I really like this image, it doesnt seem to me to meet the challenge.
  Photographer found comment helpful.
Samsung Galaxy S24, S24+, S24 Ultra
Sony Vario-Tessar T* FE 24-70mm f/4 ZA OSS
 06/19/2015 05:07:17 AM
That's a hell of an image, and I've had loved to score it in blue :-( I understand the conceit you;re playing with here, and I am going to score it a 6 for that, but it's a pittu this lovely construction isn't actually in blue...
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Canon EOS-6D
Canon EF 200mm f/2.8 L II USM Lens
 06/19/2015 12:44:55 AM
dayumm!
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