I've never used a texture layer before...it's allowed in the Expert Editing ruleset, but I'm uncertain what can be used legally and what cannot.
For example when I look in the "Texture" gallery here on DPC I find the following:
1) 2)
Both of these are photographs. Are they both legal to use as "texture"? At what point would they NOT be considered texture anymore - i.e. 10% opacity, 20% opacity, etc...?
Pretty much. At 100% opacity, it's a picture. At 10% no more than an impression. Though I'm sure there is no magic number, it would depend on how dark or light the picture you're overlaying it on is.
But for ones that weren't taken for the challenge, my understanding is that they cannot be "compositional elements" in the finished piece. At least that's the way I remember it from another thread.
so for the current challenge of being able to use up to 7 originals (all taken in the challenge wk) we can then add textures (pictures) with reduced opacity (of course)
or are you taking the 7 originals and using parts of them (masking) then combining them into one original then adding texture(s)?
I can see where this is going to get very dicey...
But for ones that weren't taken for the challenge, my understanding is that they cannot be "compositional elements" in the finished piece. At least that's the way I remember it from another thread.
Exactly!
In the Expert Editing ruleset it states "You may: use images that do not meet the source or date requirements as textures in your entry if they function specifically as textures and not to circumvent other rules."
Here's another quick question, what about brushes? On this image, which I did for a side challenge, it was a picture overlayed with an image from the textures library & a blank layer which I used a butterfly brush on then overlayed that. Would that layer be legal?
so for the current challenge of being able to use up to 7 originals (all taken in the challenge wk) we can then add textures (pictures) with reduced opacity (of course)
or are you taking the 7 originals and using parts of them (masking) then combining them into one original then adding texture(s)?
I can see where this is going to get very dicey...
Why reduced opacity for the texture? Why not just change the blending mode or any number of other things? As long as it can't be perceived as a compositional element then it should be fine.
Here's another quick question, what about brushes? On this image, which I did for a side challenge, it was a picture overlayed with an image from the textures library & a blank layer which I used a butterfly brush on then overlayed that. Would that layer be legal?
looks like a compositional element to me, but I am not SC.
so for the current challenge of being able to use up to 7 originals (all taken in the challenge wk)
What's this about only being able to use up to 7? I missed that. Can't see it mentioned in the Expert rules.
Me either. I was planning on finishing in the top 5 and having the SC validate 312 photos.
There's a limit in advanced for the number of images you can combine but there is no limit mentioned in the expert rules. Is it in the challenge description? I didn't check there. ...... Yet.
It's now Yet. No restriction in the challenge description either.
so for the current challenge of being able to use up to 7 originals (all taken in the challenge wk)
What's this about only being able to use up to 7? I missed that. Can't see it mentioned in the Expert rules.
wrong set of rules...sorry I was thinking about the Advanced Rules
You must:
create your entry from 1-10 captures of a single scene (defined as a scene whose composition/framing does not change). All captures used must be shot within the challenge submission dates.
I just thought it applied to the Expert Editing...my mistake
so for the current challenge of being able to use up to 7 originals (all taken in the challenge wk)
What's this about only being able to use up to 7? I missed that. Can't see it mentioned in the Expert rules.
Me either. I was planning on finishing in the top 5 and having the SC validate 312 photos.
oh...that's funny
It won't be so funny next July when we finally get around to DQing the photo ... ;-)
That's when you find out that IMG_0247.CR2 is actually a photo of a photo, violating the literal artwork rule. But by then, I will be long gone with all my money!
That's when you find out that IMG_0247.CR2 is actually a photo of a photo, violating the literal artwork rule. But by then, I will be long gone with all my money!
Yes, as we've seen with the bankers, a successful clawback of ill-gotten gains/winnings is so rare as to not be worth the trouble ...
But for ones that weren't taken for the challenge, my understanding is that they cannot be "compositional elements" in the finished piece. At least that's the way I remember it from another thread.
Exactly!
In the Expert Editing ruleset it states "You may: use images that do not meet the source or date requirements as textures in your entry if they function specifically as textures and not to circumvent other rules."
ETA - rule quote.
Still haven't heard a confirmation on this by SC yet.
As long as they were all taken during the challenge dates, you can combine photographs in Expert, so it doesn't matter.
The first phrase being the key. If, however, someone sources a texture from an old image of theirs, or a library of images sch as present on DPC, then it will certainly not be shot during the challenge, and will be DQ'd if it is deemed to represent compositional elements of a photo and not a texture.
