I have been thinking lately it would be cool to have a posting of the top three scores of all the challenges currently in voting at any given time. Then you could look at your score and know if you had a chance to get in there, or sit and quietly admire your score if it was one of the three.
I think that it would interfere with voting, unless you could only see how your own image was standing during the challenge. I feel that a "top 3"board would skew the vote. Even with seeing your own standing, people would surely be posting it in the scores thread.
Strange, I would like the opposite, that no scores where displayed even for us, until the voting ends...
There absolutely nothing one can do to improve the photo after the voting phase has started. So, the logical way is to down vote all (for the trolls out there).
Seeing the scores before the voting ends kind of reminds me of the polls before the elections. Even if my mind is made up, it cannot help to be just even if a bit swayed because of such polls.
Anyway, my 2c of course, and since we have the scores I'm grateful for the update button :-P
Anonymity aside, creating such a leaderboard would require calculating challenge scores continuously and allowing for the rollover script to remove biased and incomplete votes. I suspect it would slow the site dramatically.
Anonymity aside, creating such a leaderboard would require calculating challenge scores continuously and allowing for the rollover script to remove biased and incomplete votes. I suspect it would slow the site dramatically.
Midstream, how would the process know a particular vote is biased or incomplete? Unless of course the midstream process only removes those votes from the calculation but not physically from the database then it wouldn't need to know.
Anonymity aside, creating such a leaderboard would require calculating challenge scores continuously and allowing for the rollover script to remove biased and incomplete votes. I suspect it would slow the site dramatically.
well this idea was shot down pretty resoundingly but as long as we're taling about it, how hard could that be? The site already gives us our own score, I am no coder but it does not seem like it would take much to grab the top 3 scores and post them anonymously
Anonymity aside, creating such a leaderboard would require calculating challenge scores continuously and allowing for the rollover script to remove biased and incomplete votes. I suspect it would slow the site dramatically.
well this idea was shot down pretty resoundingly but as long as we're taling about it, how hard could that be? The site already gives us our own score, I am no coder but it does not seem like it would take much to grab the top 3 scores and post them anonymously
Hi Jason!
The scores get a final calculation at rollover. Some votes are eliminated, because people did not meet the 20% required for their votes to count. So it is a very intense processing.
I'm not sure how it would be to do that on a technical point of view, but giving your scores is easier than taking the scores of everybody and then sorted them out.
Also, I believe it would be available since the start of the challenge? Imagine that everybody got their first vote, and all of 5. How many of them would you put on the front page? All? Just the first ones by username?
If think it's not that direct (again, on a computing POV).
As Sarampo suggested, your current score is just an average of votes received on a single entry (simple). Placements are determined by averaging the votes on hundreds of entries, discarding abusive patterns and invalid votes, then ranking the results (much more complicated). To do that while votes are still being cast would be impractical and slow down the site.
As Sarampo suggested, your current score is just an average of votes received on a single entry (simple). Placements are determined by averaging the votes on hundreds of entries, discarding abusive patterns and invalid votes, then ranking the results (much more complicated). To do that while votes are still being cast would be impractical and slow down the site.
Yes, I also forgot the thingy for the abusive and repeated votes, thanks Shannon!
i guess i am still not getting it, your score that you see via the update button is not accurate until the rollover, i am just talking about grabbing the top 3 (perhaps after a day of voting so things stretch out a little)its not neccessary to scrub the top 3 scores just for display purposes especially when no names are attached
As Sarampo suggested, your current score is just an average of votes received on a single entry (simple). Placements are determined by averaging the votes on hundreds of entries, discarding abusive patterns and invalid votes, then ranking the results (much more complicated). To do that while votes are still being cast would be impractical and slow down the site.
A counterpoint:
- We already calculate a user's average every time they log in or click the update button. Calculating scores for the top few photos every now and then would certainly not be that onerous
- Posting just the leaders' names would not in any way identify the leading *images* or compromise anonymity
- No need to consider/eliminate invalid votes or votes that will be scrubbed. A leader board doesn't need to be accurate to four decimal places. Scrubbed votes comprise far less than 1% of votes cast anyway.
- A leader board would be another good way to engage users during competition - not that the update button isn't addictive enough!
In summary, I see some positive things about the idea, and I don't think it should be dismissed out of hand.
