Technically, can't you shoot the same scene with the camera in the same position ... at 11:59 pm and at 12:01 am ... ?
or even 24 hours later as long as the camera is in the same exact position?
Just to be specific about what the rule is.
You can "stack" images of the same scene to create increased dynamic range of depth of field, but not to create composite images which create a new scene difference from the source image(s). If multiple images are used within these constraints, all of the originals must be available for validation.
From the rules: "The intent of allowing multiple captures is to enable such techniques as high dynamic range (HDR), noise reduction, increased DOF, etc., but not to permit a subject from one scene to be inserted into a different scene, nor is it intended to allow a subject to appear in multiple places within a scene."
In a nutshell, it means you can put the camera on a tripod and take up to 10 images of the same static scene with different camera settings.
could you combine shots from 2 different cameras, if mounted on the same tripod, with same lens attached, taken within a minute or so of each other!!
reason i am asking is i have a camera converted for IR, and one of my possible free study entries i did this!!
(i didn't enter that shot as i wasn't sure)
could you combine shots from 2 different cameras, if mounted on the same tripod, with same lens attached, taken within a minute or so of each other!!
reason i am asking is i have a camera converted for IR, and one of my possible free study entries i did this!!
(i didn't enter that shot as i wasn't sure)
That's a fascinating question. I'd *guess* it would be OK, but I wouldn't bet on it without SC reinforcement :-)
Since this is a "learning" site, i would suppose this would be an example of creative use of equipment as well as a way to bend rules to the point of "almost but not quite" breaking.
Originally posted by dainmcgowan:
as these rules are being discussed...
could you combine shots from 2 different cameras, if mounted on the same tripod, with same lens attached, taken within a minute or so of each other!!
reason i am asking is i have a camera converted for IR, and one of my possible free study entries i did this!!
(i didn't enter that shot as i wasn't sure)
Since this is a "learning" site, i would suppose this would be an example of creative use of equipment as well as a way to bend rules to the point of "almost but not quite" breaking.
Originally posted by dainmcgowan:
as these rules are being discussed...
could you combine shots from 2 different cameras, if mounted on the same tripod, with same lens attached, taken within a minute or so of each other!!
reason i am asking is i have a camera converted for IR, and one of my possible free study entries i did this!!
(i didn't enter that shot as i wasn't sure)
that wasn't my intention.
i sometimes shoot a scene with my 'normal' camera as well as my IR camera and see which one comes out best when i get home.
with this particular scene there was just one part that looked better with the normal camera, so i pasted that into the IR image.
when it come to selecting my december free study entry, this shot was a possibility.
Since this is a "learning" site, i would suppose this would be an example of creative use of equipment as well as a way to bend rules to the point of "almost but not quite" breaking.
Originally posted by dainmcgowan:
as these rules are being discussed...
could you combine shots from 2 different cameras, if mounted on the same tripod, with same lens attached, taken within a minute or so of each other!!
reason i am asking is i have a camera converted for IR, and one of my possible free study entries i did this!!
(i didn't enter that shot as i wasn't sure)
that wasn't my intention.
i sometimes shoot a scene with my 'normal' camera as well as my IR camera and see which one comes out best when i get home.
with this particular scene there was just one part that looked better with the normal camera, so i pasted that into the IR image.
when it come to selecting my december free study entry, this shot was a possibility.
ETA - would love an answer from the SC on this!!
Unfortunately I don't think so...but I am not SC. Have you sent an email to SC?
Regardless of intention, it would set a precedent and requires a minute clarification of the rules.
Originally posted by dainmcgowan:
Originally posted by metatate:
Since this is a "learning" site, i would suppose this would be an example of creative use of equipment as well as a way to bend rules to the point of "almost but not quite" breaking.
Originally posted by dainmcgowan:
as these rules are being discussed...
could you combine shots from 2 different cameras, if mounted on the same tripod, with same lens attached, taken within a minute or so of each other!!
reason i am asking is i have a camera converted for IR, and one of my possible free study entries i did this!!
(i didn't enter that shot as i wasn't sure)
that wasn't my intention.
i sometimes shoot a scene with my 'normal' camera as well as my IR camera and see which one comes out best when i get home.
with this particular scene there was just one part that looked better with the normal camera, so i pasted that into the IR image.
when it come to selecting my december free study entry, this shot was a possibility.
i sometimes shoot a scene with my 'normal' camera as well as my IR camera and see which one comes out best when i get home.
with this particular scene there was just one part that looked better with the normal camera, so i pasted that into the IR image.
Is that in the "Best of" now? I'd love to see what it looks like to combine two photos like that. It has to look pretty cool.
i sometimes shoot a scene with my 'normal' camera as well as my IR camera and see which one comes out best when i get home.
with this particular scene there was just one part that looked better with the normal camera, so i pasted that into the IR image.
Is that in the "Best of" now? I'd love to see what it looks like to combine two photos like that. It has to look pretty cool.
i didn't enter it in anything as peeple get dq'ed for a lot less than that!
yea--this is an interesting question: HDR shots make use of multiple images taken in one "go", so you are introducing the idea of switching bodies but nothing else and doing a similar thing. Not a simple, clear-cut issue, I suspect :-)
Under the advanced rules, assuming that you don't upsize one to match the other, the operation of combining the files from two cameras taken from the same position of the exact same scene (and very close in time), should be ok. However, under the advanced rule set, "You may not create new features during post-processing" and you may not "combine different captures to create a new scene.".
Note that the advanced ruleset is results based. In this case, we can only tell you that the act of combining the images is ok under advanced. Like any legal editing tool under advanced, it depends on what you do with it as to whether it is legal. You can use the portions of the advanced rules above, and of course the rest of the set you can find here //www.dpchallenge.com/challenge_rules.php?RULES_ID=17 to help guide you. Or depending on your time frame, you can submit a specific example for us to look at ahead of time.
Under the advanced rules, assuming that you don't upsize one to match the other, the operation of combining the files from two cameras taken from the same position of the exact same scene (and very close in time), should be ok. However, under the advanced rule set, "You may not create new features during post-processing" and you may not "combine different captures to create a new scene.".
Note that the advanced ruleset is results based. In this case, we can only tell you that the act of combining the images is ok under advanced. Like any legal editing tool under advanced, it depends on what you do with it as to whether it is legal. You can use the portions of the advanced rules above, and of course the rest of the set you can find here //www.dpchallenge.com/challenge_rules.php?RULES_ID=17 to help guide you. Or depending on your time frame, you can submit a specific example for us to look at ahead of time.
Regards--Neil, on behalf of SC.
looks like it is allowed.... to a point!
But....like the use of textures....can be a very fine line and a very unclear line at that as to whether one example would be allowed in comparison to another...and ones interpretation of that rule may or may not agree with another.....!
A can of worms for sure that I would not like to gamble on.
But....food for thought...I can at least hope that it will work for someone.
