I came 10th on the Paranormal Challenge which was held recently.
I got disqualified for using the cloning tool to remove some minor hot pixels and sparks that appeared after adjusting the levels a bet to light the picture, the cloning wasn’t used to remove any object or to affect the composition in any way.
Here is the picture that I entered for the challenge Here is a jpeg for the original picture
Can any one explain to me why this image was disqualified,
And let me quote this from the basic editing rules ‘’ spot-edit your entry, except to remove sensor dust or hot pixels. ‘’
1- Open Raw.
2- White Balance to Shade in CS3.
3- Contrast.
4- Saturation.
5- Coloned couple of sparks. 6- Neat Image.
7- Crop.
8- USM.
9- Save for the web.
Basic editing rules:
You may not:
* spot-edit your entry, except to remove sensor dust or hot pixels
I hope this helps and I know it don't make you feel better. But IMO this is what caused your DQ.
Can you upload the raw conversion before the spot editing so we can see where you did your editing?
I guess if it were advanced editing, it may have counted the same as removing some telephone lines. But the rules is the rules. The lousy thing is if you had not mentioned it in your editing steps, nobody would likely have known.
Can you upload the raw conversion before the spot editing so we can see where you did your editing?
Here is the original Jpeg converted from CR2 [thumb]673514[/thumb], as I couldn't figure out how to upload a CR2 format, it was refused.
I would really appreciate advice regarding what does Hot Pixels means if not sparks!!
And for DrAchoo, thanks for your comment but not sure how I totally deserved the DQ, this was the main question.
Thanks ..
Can you upload the raw conversion before the spot editing so we can see where you did your editing?
Here is the original Jpeg converted from CR2 [thumb]673514[/thumb], as I couldn't figure out how to upload a CR2 format, it was refused.
I would really appreciate advice regarding what does Hot Pixels means if not sparks!!
And for DrAchoo, thanks for your comment but not sure how I totally deserved the DQ, this was the main question.
Thanks ..
Just saying by your own admission you used the clone tool to clone out something other than a hotpixel or sensor dust. That is clearly against the rules. I know what you were going for, but the rules need to be as clear cut as possible. Not a hotpixel or sensor dust? Don't clone it.
Just saying by your own admission you used the clone tool to clone out something other than a hotpixel or sensor dust. That is clearly against the rules. I know what you were going for, but the rules need to be as clear cut as possible. Not a hotpixel or sensor dust? Don't clone it.
Ok .. We are getting somewhere in here. So what you are saying is sparks are not hotpixel, if they are not, so what are they?
I really appreciate your time and comments,
Thanks.
Just saying by your own admission you used the clone tool to clone out something other than a hotpixel or sensor dust. That is clearly against the rules. I know what you were going for, but the rules need to be as clear cut as possible. Not a hotpixel or sensor dust? Don't clone it.
Ok .. We are getting somewhere in here. So what you are saying is sparks are not hotpixel, if they are not, so what are they?
I really appreciate your time and comments,
Thanks.
A hot pixel is when the sensor records something that isn't really there. A spark is something that existed in reality. A hot pixel is unlikely to "show up" when you work the processing. It will be blown no matter what.
I have the same issue with water drops on my lens. I've lost a fair amount of shots (for DPC purposes) when I'm shooting a waterfall at f/22 and 2 seconds. The spray can get waterdrops on the lens and they totally look like sensor dust. But are they? No. Therefore I can't clone them.
I think the OP doesn't understand that a hot pixel is not a spark. You created the spark. A hot pixel is the result of a light gathering sensor element emitting more light than its neighbour, or something close to that. In other words you can say that the sensor in your camera is defective, although you won't see these hot pixels unless you use longer exposures and higher ISO speeds.
DPC lets you remove the hot pixels the camera created. But DPC does not let you remove sparks you created because Basic Editing rules apply to this particular challenge.
The link that [user]LanndonKame[/user] posted above is a great one, but to sum up, a hot pixel is a defect of a camera's sensor. They are pixels that will always appear bright (usually white, but sometimes red, blue or green) regardless of what was being shot. They are a camera defect, in other words, not something that would have been in your shot. The sparks are not "hot pixels" because they are something that was actually there in your scene.
Well .. I think it was my mistake then,
no shame to admit,
and thanks for all who helped me to learn something new today, I appreciate it.
Now lets see how to win some challenges.
Thanks all again,
All the best,
Well .. I think it was my mistake then,
no shame to admit,
and thanks for all who helped me to learn something new today, I appreciate it.
Now lets see how to win some challenges.
Thanks all again,
All the best,
Well .. I think it was my mistake then,
no shame to admit,
and thanks for all who helped me to learn something new today, I appreciate it.
Now lets see how to win some challenges.
Thanks all again,
All the best,
Good attitude EL-GHOOL. Good to see. :D
Great shot all the same, don't let a few hot sparks get to you. ;\
