It's just a tought i had tonight and made some statistics. I made them really fast so they are not complete but... It look like 62.2% of the ribbon winning photo where shot with DSLR in the last 12 challenge while DSLR are no more than (around) 16% of the camera owned by DPC'ers!
I'm wondering, Is this the time to introduce category in our challenge or DPC will sadly become a DSLR owner club?
Seems like a big majority of the "new" users/members are owners of DSLRs. There's 415 members on team "Rebel" already.
As the DSLR's get cheaper, more and more people will try to get there hands on one. Look at how many Canon threads in the forums and you can tell what is dominanting.
I wonder what percentage of ribbon winners drink coffee, maybe that's the reason ?
This comes up quite often, but often I think the order is a bit out of wack.
Many people who are good photographers, have progressed and realised they want the most creative options and bought a DSLR.
This doesn't mean that the DSLR is winning, just that people who tend to be taking good pictures also tend to have more investment in equipment. There have been plenty of winners with non SLR cameras too, often by the same people who are winning with SLRs.
It would be depressing to believe that the creativity and inspiration was from the camera, and not from the user, after all - wouldn't it ?
Quality of the photos are not winning here as much as photo which perfectly match the required subject!
In other words Snapshot of a Duck will win over a perfect photo of a Duck looking Goose in the Ducks challenge!
sorry to be so thick but what are DSRL's
I doubt my camera is DSRL but can someone explain to me what you mean Please.
Thanks in advance.
Sally
Digital Single-Lens Reflex
SLR's in general use a mirror to redirect the image from the image sensor to the viewfinder, allowing you to see exactly what will hit the sensor (framing, focus, etc.). When you take the shot, the mirror flips out of the way so the light can hit the sensor.
sorry to be so thick but what are DSRL's
I doubt my camera is DSRL but can someone explain to me what you mean Please.
Thanks in advance.
Sally
Digital Single-Lens Reflex
SLR's in general use a mirror to redirect the image from the image sensor to the viewfinder, allowing you to see exactly what will hit the sensor (framing, focus, etc.). When you take the shot, the mirror flips out of the way so the light can hit the sensor.
It's just a tought i had tonight and made some statistics. I made them really fast so they are not complete but... It look like 62.2% of the ribbon winning photo where shot with DSLR in the last 12 challenge while DSLR are no more than (around) 16% of the camera owned by DPC'ers!
I'm wondering, Is this the time to introduce category in our challenge or DPC will sadly become a DSLR owner club?
We don't have categories for 1-2 pixels or 3-4 pixel groups.
It's the photographer.
I think that the differences in cameras are somewhat squelched with the required file and pixel size for the challenges. The true difference in cameras would more prevalently show up on the printing end, no?
Sure it may be shocking that ribbon winners are using dslr but arent those people with it & winning controling the cams? I think equipment is good but it aint winning any ribbons for the fotogs all by themselves. If I thought I couls win a ribbon with one & would go get one (if I had the money as well). Fact is I would love one but not bc I think it will help me win ribbons. Besides my Precious has given me a lot of joy thus far & I wouldnt just ditch for a dslr to win ribbons.
I think those that have one & have won ribbons did so bc they took great fotos & we all thought they deserved to win.
I don't think having a DSLR is that big a factor in determining ribbon winners. And neither is luck. Look at how many of the ribboners have ribboned before. And look to see how many of their ribbons were won before they got the DSLR. For the most part they are the better photographers whatever camera they use. And there are a lot of people who got DSLRs but still haven't won anything.
If we were to split the competitions it might be smarter to do it based on talent rather than equipment. Example: Everyone who has ribboned places their photos into a Senior Division regardless of what camera they use. And the Junior Div is open to a newbie even if they have a DSLR.
There is a lot of discussion & opinions about what makes a winning photo above. People mention having a good camera - having a good set-up - some luck etc etc
I honestly think the main winning formula is simply the ability to think creatively and differently.
Many of the users here could replicate the winning shots easily, with or without a flashy camera. But it's the thinking process that amazes me. Take Gordon’s shot (which seems to have been mentioned in many threads of late) now this is sooooo simple and basic it's genius.
Painting with light - use a paintbrush literally painting light.
This is where I envy those ribbon hugging photographers - learning the technical stuff can be done in time by everyone that has the effort to read & learn, but you can't learn to think creatively - at least not very easily.
In fact some of the winning shots fall short of technical excellence, but the idea is so strong that it becomes quite irrelevant.
E301 from the critique club summed it up yesterday on one of my images by stating: "There's always something to be said for entering a competent photo in a challenge - and it seems to me one can always guarantee a score of a low 6"
This, I have learnt, is so true. But you will never win with a technically great shot that falls short on originality and ideas.
Looking through my past 10 challenges for example: 6.3/5.8/6.3/6.9/6.1/5.9/6.4/5.7/6.2/6.6 - all average ok composed ok lighting ok composition, but all lacking in anything 'wow' or original. my most original (and my best score thus far) was the 6.9 in the NG challenge, but is probably the worst technically over the other 10.
So i think winning, and general fantastic photographs are down to idea & originality more than DSLR's and technical ability.
There is no doubt that having a better camera can contribute to winning. That said you still need talent; there are regular contributers here with DSLRs that aren't great photographers. On the other hand I don't think you'd convince many of the winning DSLR owners to try an entry with a 3mp PnS camera, even though most would have you believe that it wouldn't be a handicap for them. :)
There is no doubt that having a better camera can contribute to winning. That said you still need talent; there are regular contributers here with DSLRs that aren't great photographers. On the other hand I don't think you'd convince many of the winning DSLR owners to try an entry with a 3mp PnS camera, even though most would have you believe that it wouldn't be a handicap for them. :)
There are some that do, and still win, while owning an SLR
Though of my 6 ribbons, 2 out of the three highest were shot with a Canon G2
