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Canon EOS-1Ds
Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8 L IS USM
 01/25/2004 06:15:19 PM · #1
I just noted several references to the 1D replacement that is expected to be announced by Canon at the PMA. Has anyone around here heard anything about this? I'm personally not interested as a consumer but it just seems like this has gotten no press when the Sony DSC-F828 got months of lead in time as well as the hubbub about the Nikon D-70 which no one has seen at this time (although I know about the specs sheet that was on the internet for a few days). Just wondering if this is for real and, if so, why it seems so unknown.
Fujifilm X100VI
 01/25/2004 06:35:29 PM · #2
Because Canon can keep a secret and is really tight with its NDA?

What I read at dpreview's 1D/1Ds forum:

Mike Johnston came over to say that Nikon's D2H would be blown out of the water by the new 1D if what he heard was true.
Paul Pope says that people who wait for it will not be disappointed (this is someone who actually used the Nikon F6 with a film back).

The rumour is something in the line of 8mp fullframe 8 frames per second at either the full 8mp or a 4mp crop/resample. Or an 6mp 1.3x, but that is unlikely considering the fact that Canon would have to make the photodiodes smaller and that doesn't help the noise much. Lack of noise is very important with a camera like this. Perhaps 6mp fullframe?
Nobody knows if it will use CCD or CMOS technology. The D2H now uses a 4mp LBCAST (CMOS) sensor and that camera has the same speed as the 1D has, so it must be possible for Canon to do it with an 8mp full frame. They have a couple of years advantage when it comes to CMOS development.

Price unknown.

Canon EOS-1Ds
Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8 L IS USM
 01/25/2004 07:48:56 PM · #3
Cool. Well, whatever it is I'm interested to simply see the envelope being pushed farther. Thanks for sharing what you've heard.
OM System OM-1
Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro
 01/26/2004 01:44:59 AM · #4
I'll be interested to see what is announced, if anything, by Canon.

The Nikon D2H does not use a CMOS sensor, it uses a JFET (LBCAST) sensor, which is simlar to CMOS, but not identical. It was designed internally by Nikon to be faster so they could get 8fps.

It uses fewer transistors (3 vs 4) of a different type(JFET vs MOSFET) than the Canon CMOS sensor. I'm sure there are some people out there who are well-versed in the ins and outs of the differences, but that is about all I know. Nikon is not talking too much yet about the internal workings of their new sensor.

Until the word comes out from Canon, it's just speculation.
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