Can you tell us what the key changes are ????????????
From a practical standpoint, what's allowed isn't all that different from the current rules. Among the key changes...
The Literal Artwork rules will be significantly relaxed. If the voters can TELL it's artwork, the entry will be legal and you'll be at the mercy of the voters.
The term "Major Elements" is completely gone. Instead, we'll focus on allowing touchup or removal of minor imperfections. You can use filters, but adding new features like motion blur or textures where none existed before isn't allowed.
It looks like there will still be a lot of judgement calls here. And bitching. Good luck and thanks for the info!
You'll be allowed to remove sensor dust and hot pixels in Basic! Don't try to clone out anything else though. ;-)
Even if this were the only change I'd be happy! There have been a couple of occasions that the crop of an entry was driven by the placement of a dust spot. Drives me crazy and I clean the sensor before every session.
The Literal Artwork rules will be significantly relaxed. If the voters can TELL it's artwork, the entry will be legal and you'll be at the mercy of the voters.
So I can totally see how this goes with the goal of increased clarity in the rules. But won't this get confusing in practice? Defining what is legal in terms that are subjective sort of makes me a little bit uneasy.
If the voters can tell it's artwork, then it's legal. If they can't tell it's artwork, aren't they going to think that it's just another photo of something, and think it's legal anyway?
I might be missing something here so explanations would be so appreciated :-)
SC / Langdon: thanks for the heads up and for the hard work you all put into the rules revision. Not sure ab out the artwork one as I always felt that it helped the artwork owners copyright protections. Now, as an example, it seems as if you're saying it's ok for me to print a photo of another photogs work take a picture of that and use it as my entry. I would never do that myself, but can see where someone else may.
Copyright violations are a breach of the Terms of Service (and, no, you still can't take a photo of a photo). Just wait for the rules. No need to debate what you haven't seen.
I don't want to prejudge the rules, but already I am confused about adding textures where none existed. By the nature of pixel photography, there is always some texture (unless you paint with a solid color). You add texture by increasing contrast or using USM. Like I said, totally prejudgeing.
Scalvert just gave a brief overview. Y'all are arguing/judging something you haven't seen yet. Be patient. There may still be some bugs to work out (thus the month long trial period), but I think you will find that things are a lot less subjective and easier to live with.
There's not a lot to "learn." Basically, anything acceptable now is also acceptable under the new ones. We haven't majorly overhauled the content of the rules, mostly just their presentation.
It would be nice to have more time to review and learn them before Sunday night's member challenge.
I'm unsure this is necessary. Will it actually change the way you take pictures in such a fashion you'd need advanced notice? I won't me. It only affects the way they are post processed and then probably in very minor ways.
It would be nice to have more time to review and learn them before Sunday night's member challenge.
I'm unsure this is necessary. Will it actually change the way you take pictures in such a fashion you'd need advanced notice? I won't me. It only affects the way they are post processed and then probably in very minor ways.
no, but may change workflow steps. Especially in BASIC if you can now remove sensor dust.
Not really. I need to double check, but the rules will apply to the challenges that start (re - submissions) the week of the 6th. Those in voting will be under the current set. So, you have all week to read/peruse/study/post process/ask before you submit under the new set.
I'm in favor of revealing the rules ahead of time.
Let's say it takes a day or two to digest the new rules (gathering explanations, etc). Some folks may wait to understand the rules better before composing their shots for an entry. In other words, photos are taken with challenge rules in mind (it would behoove everyone to do so).
Anyway, in this example, they would have only five days to shoot, not the full seven. Could be a disadvantage for some.
I'm glad to see the artwork rule changed. In the end almost everything could be considered works of art. Buildings, custom cars, etc...This rule has been very subjective and its time has passed IMO. Bravo (I hope)
If they release the rules early, people will get confused about which set of rules applies when.
Don't release the new rules on the official rules page. Release them on their own staging page (or forum). This would be similar to an RFC (Request For Comments) in the real world where standards are set and agreed upon.
