Not to open a can of worms, but while looking at the Steve Davidson results, I noticed the photo of Mount Rushmore was DQ'd on the literal rule. I thought that sculptures were not considered for literal--since there are so many variables which can be applied (e.g., the clouds in this are unique to that shot) and certainly not many times do you see Steve there.
Just curious if the rule violation is listed correctly there as the literal works repro rule?
(Also should emphasize that this is not my photo, just curious...)
I have to agree with this one, even under the looser rules of this challenge; taking someone else's image and photoshopping Steve into it doesn't seem right to me for a challenge entry.
I was rather surprised at seeing the images of Steve in the submissions, as last I had heard we weren't allowed to use any image we hadn't taken during the time frame alloted, including the image that was in the thread. Nothing was in the challenge description anyway.
I was rather surprised at seeing the images of Steve in the submissions, as last I had heard we weren't allowed to use any image we hadn't taken during the time frame alloted, including the image that was in the thread. Nothing was in the challenge description anyway.
Should have been a notice, or link on the upload page if the rules were ammended in the forums then. Seems this one had too many threads going in different directions and not everyone has the time to try and dig around for what is/isn't allowed.
I thought so many would be dq'd cloning him in as it was stated we couldn't. Would have had such a blast had it been made clear.
.... I thought so many would be dq'd cloning him in as it was stated we couldn't. Would have had such a blast had it been made clear....
I loved your shot Brad. You took liberty with the ability to use layers/cloning, etc. and did it well. I'm sure that many of the photos still received validation requests. And passed the validation. Not all were cloned in, or used a brush etc.
But early on, was said that it wasn't allowed, nor could he be cloned in.
If a change is done mid-stream, a vessel needs to be in place to get the word out to everyone or have a flag announcing it on the upload screen.
Not everyone has the time to read every post.
Someone asked in a forum thread about custom brushes. Since the Major Elements clause was waived, there was an initial SC response that they were legal, and we didn't catch the loophole until the voting had started. By then there was no point in announcing it in the rules, and we couldn't reasonably DQ after giving a public thumbs up. It was a no-win situation, and since this was a special "extra-editing" challenge anyway, we chose to allow it. We'll get it right next time! ;-)
to clarify in my brain:
literal art in a nutshell is if you photograph someone else's art without any other artistic view and submit your photo as 'the' art.
however if you do something 'different' to the art, (i.e. a portion of the art, different view, etc.) that is not abusing the literal art clause, correct?
Therefore the DQ'd entry was literal art because a Steve brush was used on someone else's art?
Karmat, I wasn't trying to debate, I really was trying to clarify for my knowledge. I was very worried about breaking the rules with my entry....but was ok.
