I propose new calculation of the votes.Users who earned three or more ribbons should have their votes weighted in separate score and all other votes in second group!(like camera owners and non-camera owners).
Then A+B should be added and divided by 2!
I consider those photographers with ribbons should have more weight in criticizing mine and other works!
This way ribbon holders will be rewarded and malicious self serving 1 givers will loose some of the power that have now!
This way ribbon holders will be rewarded and malicious self serving 1 givers will loose some of the power that have now!
Good suggestion!! More ribbons more is your weight for scores.
Also there should be a way to penalise voters (by lowering their voting weightage) who vote any picture much lower (2 standard deviations?) than the average score it recieves after deducting the 1s and 10s
There are some sites out there who call this your karma rating...
[sarcasm]I like it! A little mini caste system all our own!!! Kind of like Jim Crow laws of digital photography! Or as an alternative, we can vote on a scale of 5 to 5, so no one's self esteem will be at risk of getting a lower score than someone else...[/sarcasm]
Another approach to fixing voting arguments is to realize that everyone gets to vote as they see fit...
Another approach to fixing voting arguments is to realize that everyone gets to vote as they see fit...
exactly! some bad pictures get a few 10s but that only means that some people liked them... same goes for the people that give 1s, if they don't... those are the breaks!
Had the same thoughts a couple weeks ago but realized that the DPC system is fundamentally dependant on voters voting. If people especially new users, felt their vote was worth crap-all, nobody would vote. bye bye dpc.
Had the same thoughts a couple weeks ago but realized that the DPC system is fundamentally dependant on voters voting. If people especially new users, felt their vote was worth crap-all, nobody would vote. bye bye dpc.
With 3-4000 $ equipment you shouldn't worry about been put down!
Why is everyone being so precious lately? Come on how about we all grow a skin and get over our egos about getting a few 1s on our picture submissions. I was reading a thread titled “Six one’s….why?” This person was complaining that their picture got six ones, however I noticed it also got six tens. I don’t believe there is any need to change the voting system. If we look at the total votes it should be obvious that the 1s we get for our precious pictures are cancelled out by the 10s that we receive at the opposite end. Also if 6 voters out of 200 voters or 3% hate the picture then 97% is not a bad approval rate hey? Does anyone else agree?
I raised the "weight of vote" issue in another post precedently and somebody observed that it would not be in the democratic spirit of this website.
I respect that.
In the mean time, I realized that the problem is not in 1s or 10s but in the true identity of whoever gives a vote.
The site should do is best to avoid any sort of malicious voting because that is the major danger for the survival of the site itself.
It claims to implements some analysis of voting pattern but if it is a good intention more than a reality, then the voting system is under threat of the most unfair manipulation.
I think it would be of some importance to propose (and implement) ideas to enforce an identity check on whoever is voting.
The first ideas who come to my mind are:
- confer the right to vote only to whoever has partecipated to a challenge at least once
- confer the right to vote to frequent users only (ie: users who have logged in at least ten times in the past months)
- trace IP addresses and do not accept more than one vote per IP address (this may create some problem with couples but that can easily be resolved if the couple makes an average of their two votes and post it as one vote)
To do not implement techniques like these ones and to do not try to enforce identity check it is going to constitute a threat to the quality of this website and to its survival in the long term.
Also, it is unfair to raise the shield of democracy because in any democracy a strong proof of identity (not just a username and password) is required whenever you cast your vote.
I agree. This is the system. Live and die with it. Tough titties. Everyone gets delt the same crap therefore creating a level playing field. Any replacement system will be screwed too. Cant please everyone all the time. I dont think the main aim here is to win but learn. Winning would be good bonus and addition to what I learn along the way.
Who cares really?
What is the meaning of life?
IT JUST IS!
Why is everyone being so precious lately? Come on how about we all grow a skin and get over our egos about getting a few 1s on our picture submissions. I was reading a thread titled “Six one’s….why?” This person was complaining that their picture got six ones, however I noticed it also got six tens. I don’t believe there is any need to change the voting system. If we look at the total votes it should be obvious that the 1s we get for our precious pictures are cancelled out by the 10s that we receive at the opposite end. Also if 6 voters out of 200 voters or 3% hate the picture then 97% is not a bad approval rate hey? Does anyone else agree?
No will of being offensive, but please let me say that your interpretation of maths is a little bit naive. =)
giving select photos a "1" is NOT malicious voting -- it's voting the way you see fit, fair and square.
giving EVERY photo a "1" IS malicious scoring, and there's already a procedure in place to take care of that.
if we're going to give weight to certain votes, lets give more power to the people who submit comments and actually attempt to improve the site and less weight to the people who just sit around and complain about it. that would be just as fair as any other option submitted.
giving select photos a "1" is NOT malicious voting -- it's voting the way you see fit, fair and square.
I agree assuming that whoever casts that vote has voted only once in the specific challenge.
If by any means (and there are easy means to do that), that person is able to vote more than once, then it's no more about 1s and 10s but it is just about VERY malicious voting.
I think we should change it from 2-11. That way, you'll never get a one, and if you rilly, rilly, rilly (like rilly) like someone's photograph, you can give it an eleven, which is one more than ten.
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Why don't we just remove '1' from the voting scale and vote 2-10 instead?
I think we should be required to comment on votes 3 and under. I know we have a chance of getting comments like "1", but at least it would eliminate the people who vote down others photos to make theirs go up. I also think that people would give more of an explination of why they gave them the 3,2,1. I think we should try this and see what happens. What would it hurt? What would be interesting is to see how high the scores would go up.
how about after the voting is over, throw out all the 10 scores and all the 1 scores and then there would be no complaints as to how a picture got all those 10s and all those ones....
