Hi guys,
I was looking at the Extended FS results and I was wondering "what is the point of the Extended FS?". In my opinion it should be a contest in which the users use the "Extended" ruleset and partecipate with artworks. Looking at the submitted pictures, instead, I see just another "Free Study" where someone, if he wants, can take advantage from the Exteneded ruleset. So, maybe the real question is "what's the point to have two Free Study in a month"?
Please note: I'm not complaining about the results (my Pic was just a "clumsy" merge of two pictures taken during the validity period of the contest and maybe deserves the received votes), I'm just trying to understand the purpose of these contests.
No thanks! I like having a regular Free Study uncluttered without the crazy non-photo, collaged, fantasy, flipped stuff.
People need the Extended FS to get this stuff out of their system. LOL
I agree with you but at the same time in my opinion there is the need to keep out the "regular" pictures from the Extended FS, otherwise there is no sense to have both.
Hi guys,
I was looking at the Extended FS results and I was wondering "what is the point of the Extended FS?". In my opinion it should be a contest in which the users use the "Extended" ruleset and partecipate with artworks.
Why should it be used to compose artworks??? It says nowhere that Extended should be used to create 'artwork'. The use of the extended ruleset just give you that extra possibility to edit your image in a way that is not possible in Standard editing. And looking at the result in the last Extended FS I dare say many submitters used that ruleset quite well. So I really can't see your point, to be honest.
The purpose of the Extended ruleset is to obtain a picture that you cannot obtain otherwise. If a photo may be confused as a "standard" one, in my opinion is not meeting the challenge.
The purpose of the Extended ruleset is to obtain a picture that you cannot obtain otherwise. If a photo may be confused as a "standard" one, in my opinion is not meeting the challenge.
But maybe my opinion is too much "inflexible" :-)
It is too inflexible. What is a "standard" photo? Take my entry:
Upon first glance, you might think this is a standard photo. But in reality, there was no way to simply take this photo. For instance, the lamp post on the right does not exist at all. I had to draw it in there by copying one of the other lamps. Without that lamp on that side of the image, this photo had less depth and was boring.
So I made full use of extended editing, but likely a lot of people would never know that just by looking at it.
It is too inflexible. What is a "standard" photo? Take my entry:
Upon first glance, you might think this is a standard photo. But in reality, there was no way to simply take this photo. For instance, the lamp post on the right does not exist at all. I had to draw it in there by copying one of the other lamps. Without that lamp on that side of the image, this photo had less depth and was boring.
So I made full use of extended editing, but likely a lot of people would never know that just by looking at it.
I understand your point, but I still think that make a full use of extended editing to obtain something of "too much realistic" in an "Extended Free Study" is wrong. So, since I'm too inflexible I guess it is better I stop partecipate to the Extended Free Study and stop voting it ;-)
I understand your point, but I still think that make a full use of extended editing to obtain something of "too much realistic" in an "Extended Free Study" is wrong.
Your own entry to this challenge looks very realistic. Looks like a large print on a wall that has worn away. So by your own definition, your entry is "wrong."
I'm not trying to argue with you here. You can enter and vote however you want, but a little open-mindedness is a great thing (this is a lesson I have learned multiple times here at DPC) :)
Your own entry to this challenge looks very realistic. Looks like a large print on a wall that has worn away. So by your own definition, your entry is "wrong."
I'm not trying to argue with you here. You can enter and vote however you want, but a little open-mindedness is a great thing (this is a lesson I have learned multiple times here at DPC) :)
Yes maybe you are right, in fact I knew my entry was orrible hihihih ^_^
FWIW, the notes on my entry (6th place) clearly indicate that it is anything but Extended editing. In fact, I could have done much more in Standard that what I did. From my perspective, you can't have a restriction on what you *haven't* done. You're free to use any/all of the freedom of an applicable ruleset, or none at all. Nothing at all keeping anyone from submitting an entry processed per Minimal in a Standard or Extended challenge.
I have to ask...what is so terrible about 2 FS per month? Also, what is so terrible about using the extended rules to do anything you want? I thought that was the point. Speaking of a point, I thought the point of the extended rules FS was to cut down on the possible number of extended challenges.
Guys there is nothing terrible here, I wanted to share my point of view :-)
Nothing terrible to have 2 FS per month, but, actually, there are not 2 FS per month... There is a "Free Study" and an "Extended Free Study", the "extended" word is in the title of the Challenge, that for me means that you have to use the extended ruleset, otherwise it's a "DNMC". If you have a challenge named "Bird flight" and I send a beautiful picture of a dog flying (LOL), do you think is a DNMC or not?
Of course mine is an example to explain my point of view. But I don't want to persuade you, just to talk with you guys :-P
"Why should it be used to compose artworks??? It says nowhere that Extended should be used to create 'artwork'. The use of the extended ruleset just give you that extra possibility to edit your image in a way that is not possible in Standard editing. And looking at the result in the last Extended FS I dare say many submitters used that ruleset quite well. . . " Kroburg
". . . From my perspective, you can't have a restriction on what you *haven't* done. You're free to use any/all of the freedom of an applicable ruleset, or none at all. Nothing at all keeping anyone from submitting an entry processed per Minimal in a Standard or Extended challenge." kirbic
Secondly, my thoughts:
Whether in fiction, in film, or in visual art, I'm not much for fantasy. That said, I often reward fantasy images here very highly - if I consider them fantastic in every sense of the word. However, what I like best about the Extended Free Study is the freedom it offers, not only to the photographer/artist/creator but to the voter. I love being able to view, think about, react to, evaluate the entries without giving a thought to "theme". That's what "free study" means for me. To start wondering, "Is this "extended" enough for me?", would ruin the experience; it would effectively impose a "theme" on a challenge that's not supposed to have one.
Here's my highest EFS finish and one I'm very proud of. The fact that the only thing "extended" about it to the casual observer's eye was the unlikelihood of meeting a wolf prowling on an apparently well used rural road was exactly what I tried for. Unless I'm misreading, you would have scored this on the low end, the_rkp.
I hope no one else feels offended by my opinion, but maybe if someone get offended when someone else express politely his thought, maybe, a forum is not the right place for him. ;-)
Originally posted by nam:
Here's my highest EFS finish and one I'm very proud of. The fact that the only thing "extended" about it to the casual observer's eye was the unlikelihood of meeting a wolf prowling on an apparently well used rural road was exactly what I tried for. Unless I'm misreading, you would have scored this on the low end, the_rkp.
Actually I gave you a 7, I thought the wolf has been added in PP LOL
