Steam is not a type of smoke, but certainly resembles it in many ways. My estimate is that about 20% of the people will mark it down for not being actual smoke (if it's possible to tell), 20% will mark it up for being a fantastic photo whether it's actual smoke or not, and the rest are somewhere in between.
If anyone takes pictures of any of the numerous fires burning in the western States, the NOAA* has some galleries for the public to submit photos depicting atmospheric conditions and anomalies ... I only have the link to the Portland, Oregon office handy, but there are probably other regional galleries as well. You might even see one of my pictures there : )
*National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
(They are currently doing a lousy job of administering the atmosphere in Florida though ...)
I was wondering about the steam thing from a different perspective - would FOG be acceptable? I'm inclined to think it would be marked off for the same reasons as steam, but I know of some great fog shots I can get if the weather clears up.
Steam is not a type of smoke, but certainly resembles it in many ways. My estimate is that about 20% of the people will mark it down for not being actual smoke (if it's possible to tell), 20% will mark it up for being a fantastic photo whether it's actual smoke or not, and the rest are somewhere in between.
Unfortunately, I'll probably have to work in steam, as smoke of any type makes me pretty violently ill. (Should have seen me last summer during the forest fire season.. OY).. but we all make do :)
hmmm, I mostly will say that steam and fog and those whom live in LA, smog too, are NOT what I call any forms of smoke....IMO, I would frown upon having those elements used in any photo for the challenge in the replace of actural smoke. There is only one sourse, fire. But open for other ideas. However, smoke may come in many forms and color from numerous burning material(s)...experiment...But, be careful and those who are under 18 have a parent with you along with lots of water....
Steam is not a type of smoke, but certainly resembles it in many ways. My estimate is that about 20% of the people will mark it down for not being actual smoke (if it's possible to tell), 20% will mark it up for being a fantastic photo whether it's actual smoke or not, and the rest are somewhere in between.
Looking at the dictionary, steam is smoke. See 2 and 3.
Nobody should be voted down for steam.
smoke
n.
1. The vaporous system made up of small particles of carbonaceous matter in the air, resulting mainly from the burning of organic material, such as wood or coal.
2. A suspension of fine solid or liquid particles in a gaseous medium.
3. A cloud of fine particles.
4. Something insubstantial, unreal, or transitory.
5.
1. The act of smoking a form of tobacco: went out for a smoke.
2. The duration of this act.
6. Informal. Tobacco in a form that can be smoked, especially a cigarette: money to buy smokes.
7. A substance used in warfare to produce a smoke screen.
8. Something used to conceal or obscure.
9. A pale to grayish blue to bluish or dark gray.
[quote=marbo] Steam is not a type of smoke, but certainly resembles it in many ways. My estimate is that about 20% of the people will mark it down for not being actual smoke (if it's possible to tell), 20% will mark it up for being a fantastic photo whether it's actual smoke or not, and the rest are somewhere in between.
Looking at the dictionary, steam is smoke. See 2 and 3.
Nobody should be voted down for steam.
smoke
n.
It would be a brave person to use steam as smoke because your average voter will not be looking at the dictionary when they are voting.
I for one will vote steam down as I feel it is not the intention of the challenge.
2. A suspension of fine solid or liquid particles in a gaseous medium.
3. A cloud of fine particles.
Ok....now. "liquid particles" and a "gaseous medium?" Hmmm, how about finding what are those gaseous mediums and liquid particles are made from. Those 2 definitions seem kinda vague. Perhaps "smoke" has the same texture as steam and fog, but are the molecules the same? DNA breakdown if you will. Note: I'm no biochemist...:) However, something tells me that they are different in the structure and chemical makeup.
A cloud of fine particals...ok again, what are the particals in the steam, fog, and smoke? Sure they all have fine particals....what are THEY among all 3 elements? Are they different? If so, by how much ratio?
Clouds are fine particals of H20, but it isn't smoke...nor is fog or steam smoke they are forms of WATER/H20....So does smoke have water in it? Yes, H20 is everywhere..However, I'm sure the percentage of the "particals" wont read that much in smoke....However, they will in steam and fog of course...I think that smoke has more "particals" made from what is is being burnt....since H20 is very are to burn....I have to go and say that steam and fog are out....Any Biochemists in the house???....man, lets just shoot some smoke and be happy....I vote next weeks challenges to be "Fog" and "Steam"....so people can wait to shoot those two elements and concretrate on the 'smoke challenge....
Ah, but be careful...they might confuse powder with smoke. You know that gun powder can be made up of tiny little particals that can produce a cloud when thrown into the air...hmmm, so does water..go figure.