But to be fair, it's just being a historical record of what was done back in ye olde days with that one. The she bears one is a personal fave though, has been for a long time. Good 'ole bald Elisha and the bears of doom. Legitimate question though- I never found an expression of what a shebear was. Is it a female bear, or like a chimera creature?
Anyway... anybody notice it's not listed on the dropdown menu?
But to be fair, it's just being a historical record of what was done back in ye olde days with that one. The she bears one is a personal fave though, has been for a long time. Good 'ole bald Elisha and the bears of doom. Legitimate question though- I never found an expression of what a shebear was. Is it a female bear, or like a chimera creature?
Anyway... anybody notice it's not listed on the dropdown menu?
"Shebear" is a female ursine, yes. They are ferocious when they have cubs. As I'm sure you know...
A bit of background on this one, from the same source, to flesh out your "to be fair" qualifier:
In regard to this passage, we are not necessarily to suppose that the author of the psalm approved of this, or desired it, or prayed for it. He looked forward to the fulfillment of a prediction; he saw that a just and terrible judgment would certainly come upon Babylon; he expressed that in the common language of the times, and states the manner in which it would occur; he described the feelings - the gratification - of those who would execute the divine purpose in the overthrow of Babylon; he referred to the estimate in which the conqueror would be held by people, and the glory of the achievement as giving him fame among people.
Maybe because both the FS and the Best of are currently occupying spaces? Or is that a stupid idea (I don't mind if it is :) )
That's what I was thinking... but wasn't sure.
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
A bit of background on this one, from the same source, to flesh out your "to be fair" qualifier:
In regard to this passage, we are not necessarily to suppose that the author of the psalm approved of this, or desired it, or prayed for it. He looked forward to the fulfillment of a prediction; he saw that a just and terrible judgment would certainly come upon Babylon; he expressed that in the common language of the times, and states the manner in which it would occur; he described the feelings - the gratification - of those who would execute the divine purpose in the overthrow of Babylon; he referred to the estimate in which the conqueror would be held by people, and the glory of the achievement as giving him fame among people.
Yup, and thanks for clarifying the bear. It would've been more interesting if it were a chimera type creature, but I guess that was a bit more Roman et al (ETA: Though I figured it was just angry female bears). The thing with The Bible is that you can arbitrarily pick single verses to support any number of visions, regardless of context, so in terms of a challenge, there's extreme leeway. The only issue is DNMC for not being "contextual," to the extent that various verses can be interpreted vastly different depending upon the reading and your background, as well as your sect. Frankly, as an atheist, I find it to be a great suggestion for a challenge, specifically for expert. Immense possibility for dramatic visualizations.
ETA: Maybe it'll get some of you lurkers in Rant to enter!
The book of Judith is in the Old Testament of the Catholic bible, but not in the Jewish or Protestant bibles.
"Judith was left alone in the tent, with Holofernes stretched out on the bed, for he was overcome with wine (Judith 13,2)... She went up to the post at the end of the bed, above Holofernes' head, and took down his sword that hung there. She came close to the bed and took hold of the hair of his head, and said: "Give me strength this day, O Lord God of Israel!". And she struck his neck twice with all her might, and severed his head from his body (Judith 13,6-8)... After a moment she went out and gave Holofernes' head to her maid (Judith 13, 9)"
If you've seen a painting from the Renaissance of a woman chopping off a man's head with a sword and blood gushing forth...that's probably Judith.
The book of Judith is in the Old Testament of the Catholic bible, but not in the Jewish or Protestant bibles.
"Judith was left alone in the tent, with Holofernes stretched out on the bed, for he was overcome with wine (Judith 13,2)... She went up to the post at the end of the bed, above Holofernes' head, and took down his sword that hung there. She came close to the bed and took hold of the hair of his head, and said: "Give me strength this day, O Lord God of Israel!". And she struck his neck twice with all her might, and severed his head from his body (Judith 13,6-8)... After a moment she went out and gave Holofernes' head to her maid (Judith 13, 9)"
If you've seen a painting from the Renaissance of a woman chopping off a man's head with a sword and blood gushing forth...that's probably Judith.
[sarcasm]Does this challenge require us to have faith to believe in what we are shooting? What if someone doesn't believe that any religion has all the facts right: Are they supposed to shoot nothing? Will i be forever damned if i enter and do poorly?[/sarcasm]
I have an idea in mind for this that i've been tossing around as a potential freestudy entry for a while.... we'll see how it turns out and what voters think.
The book of Judith is in the Old Testament of the Catholic bible, but not in the Jewish or Protestant bibles.
"Judith was left alone in the tent, with Holofernes stretched out on the bed, for he was overcome with wine (Judith 13,2)... She went up to the post at the end of the bed, above Holofernes' head, and took down his sword that hung there. She came close to the bed and took hold of the hair of his head, and said: "Give me strength this day, O Lord God of Israel!". And she struck his neck twice with all her might, and severed his head from his body (Judith 13,6-8)... After a moment she went out and gave Holofernes' head to her maid (Judith 13, 9)"
If you've seen a painting from the Renaissance of a woman chopping off a man's head with a sword and blood gushing forth...that's probably Judith.
I was wondering who Judith was...
A biblical badass.
One of my favorite depictions of the scene is by Artemisia_Gentileschi though the version you're most likely to have seen is by Caravaggio
The book of Judith is in the Old Testament of the Catholic bible, but not in the Jewish or Protestant bibles.
"Judith was left alone in the tent, with Holofernes stretched out on the bed, for he was overcome with wine (Judith 13,2)... She went up to the post at the end of the bed, above Holofernes' head, and took down his sword that hung there. She came close to the bed and took hold of the hair of his head, and said: "Give me strength this day, O Lord God of Israel!". And she struck his neck twice with all her might, and severed his head from his body (Judith 13,6-8)... After a moment she went out and gave Holofernes' head to her maid (Judith 13, 9)"
If you've seen a painting from the Renaissance of a woman chopping off a man's head with a sword and blood gushing forth...that's probably Judith.
waitaminute, maybe I don't know what I'm talking about...
Yup, I was thinking about Deborah in Judges who has a similar story (those Jewish women were not to be trifled with), but did in her victim with a tent peg through the temple...
The book of Judith is in the Old Testament of the Catholic bible, but not in the Jewish or Protestant bibles.
"Judith was left alone in the tent, with Holofernes stretched out on the bed, for he was overcome with wine (Judith 13,2)... She went up to the post at the end of the bed, above Holofernes' head, and took down his sword that hung there. She came close to the bed and took hold of the hair of his head, and said: "Give me strength this day, O Lord God of Israel!". And she struck his neck twice with all her might, and severed his head from his body (Judith 13,6-8)... After a moment she went out and gave Holofernes' head to her maid (Judith 13, 9)"
If you've seen a painting from the Renaissance of a woman chopping off a man's head with a sword and blood gushing forth...that's probably Judith.
waitaminute, maybe I don't know what I'm talking about...
Yup, I was thinking about Deborah in Judges who has a similar story (those Jewish women were not to be trifled with), but did in her victim with a tent peg through the temple...
I though Deborah was a leader of the Israelites who, along with Barak, defeated the Canaanite warlord Sisera's army. Sisera then ran away to Jael's tent and it was Jael who drove the tent peg through Sisera's temple as he slept, killing him. At least that's what I remember. Gentileschi painted that scene as well. She had a thing for painting scenes of women killing men from the Bible and depicting them with much greater sympathy than her male contemporaries. That might have had something to do with her rape at the hand of her art teacher.
It's pretty clear what the theme is... if it's not recognizable as from the 66 Books of the Christian Bible, then it will get a DNMC from me and the -3 penalty.
You can imagine it's fairy tales or otherwise, but there is plenty to shoot for.
It's pretty clear what the theme is... if it's not recognizable as from the 66 Books of the Christian Bible, then it will get a DNMC from me and the -3 penalty.
Oh, come on. That's very unfair. As i mentioned above, Anton LaVey's 'The Satanic Bible' is obviously a bible and is as valid as any other so i don't think you should penalise. Satanists get a lot of stick as it is without you sticking the DNMC boot in. Think of their feelings.
It's pretty clear what the theme is... if it's not recognizable as from the 66 Books of the Christian Bible, then it will get a DNMC from me and the -3 penalty.
You can imagine it's fairy tales or otherwise, but there is plenty to shoot for.
Which Christian Bible? Greek Orthodox? Russian Orthodox? Georgian Orthodox? Catholic? Syriac Orthodox? The Anglicans? Or the Bible as defined by King James some 1600 years after the fact?
It's pretty clear what the theme is... if it's not recognizable as from the 66 Books of the Christian Bible, then it will get a DNMC from me and the -3 penalty.
Oh, come on. That's very unfair. As i mentioned above, Anton LaVey's 'The Satanic Bible' is obviously a bible and is as valid as any other so i don't think you should penalise. Satanists get a lot of stick as it is without you sticking the DNMC boot in. Think of their feelings.
quite the contrary. i did my time while growing up, i'd argue i know more bible stories than most. I actually find the stories engaging and most if not all have very good morals and lessens.
i just believe the to be fictional accounts of real people and actual events. The bible is a book of stories meant for people to live their lives by, its the fact that they are often taken or interpreted to be literal i take issue with.
It's pretty clear what the theme is... if it's not recognizable as from the 66 Books of the Christian Bible, then it will get a DNMC from me and the -3 penalty.
Oh, come on. That's very unfair. As i mentioned above, Anton LaVey's 'The Satanic Bible' is obviously a bible and is as valid as any other so i don't think you should penalise. Satanists get a lot of stick as it is without you sticking the DNMC boot in. Think of their feelings.
LOL
What about "The Photoshop Bible" then too?
Egads.
Nah, that sort of reality bending is obviously sacrilegious.
Anyway, i'm only joking. I'm more than happy with a Christian bible challenge. Lots of fantastic stories to draw inspiration from. Perhaps we can do the Upanishads next. Or The Mabinogion.
