"In the Senate four years -- and that is the full extent of public life -- no international experience, no military experience.... When I came back from Vietnam in 1969, I don't know if John Edwards was out of diapers then."
-John F. Kerry during the Iowa Caucuses on the man he picked for #2
Wow, how incredible misinformed this post is. Please don't let this sort of trashy disinformation keep you from being inspired by a truly impressive man.
Do you realize that his campaign promises are currently estimated to have a cost of $2,000,000,000,000 (yes, two trillion) dollars? And that doesn't even include the costs associated with the multitude of promises where it is impossible to estimate a cost. Where do you think all that money is gonna come from? I'll tell you... higher taxes baby!! Kerry has voted at least 350 times for higher taxes. He voted for the biggest tax increase in American history under Clinton. He voted against Bush's historic 2001 and 2003 tax cuts. He voted against major tax relief at least 29 times.
Do you realize that his campaign promises are currently estimated to have a cost of $2,000,000,000,000 (yes, two trillion) dollars? Where do you think all that money is gone come from? I'll tell you... higher taxes baby!! Kerry has voted at least 350 times for higher taxes. He voted for the biggest tax increase in American history under Clinton. He voted against Bush's historic 2001 and 2003 tax cuts. He voted against major tax relief at least 29 times.
Cut the Bushes in 2004!
Check that suspicius account pls !
Message edited by EddyG - Corrected inaccurate quoting attribution.
Please edit your post so that your quoting attributions are correct. I did not say what you have quoted me to say.
P.S. I'm not sure what you mean by "suspicous account", new users register here all the time. The user has a digital camera and may be planning on participating in an upcoming challenge.
Do you realize that his campaign promises are currently estimated to have a cost of $2,000,000,000,000 (yes, two trillion) dollars? Where do you think all that money is gonna come from? I'll tell you... higher taxes baby!! Kerry has voted at least 350 times for higher taxes. He voted for the biggest tax increase in American history under Clinton. He voted against Bush's historic 2001 and 2003 tax cuts. He voted against major tax relief at least 29 times.
Flush the Johns in 2004!
Of course, you conveniently ignore that its been Bush that has given us the largest deficits in our nation's history. And, by the way, yes, am aware of the misinformation you've quoted, I've read the same talking points/attack lines are the RNC website -- it's always the same sort of attack with the RNC: Will increase taxes, he's a liberal... blah, blah, blah... jeesh, please come up with something better.
As a former Marine, whose brother also served in the Corps, here's all I need to know: when asked to fight for his country, John Kerry volunteered to go to Vietnam -- he served honorably and valiantly. Twice I've been asked to swear an oath to the constitution, to serve it and protect it, and -- to me -- that John Kerry upheld his oath in combat says everything I need to know about him as a man.
"Mr. President, you and I know that if support or opposition to the war were to become a litmus test for leadership, America would never have leaders or recover from the divisions created by that war. You and I know that if service or nonservice in the war is to become a test of qualification for high office, you would not have a Vice President, nor would you have a Secretary of Defense and our Nation would never recover from the divisions created by that war." -- Sen. John Kerry
It is just like Kerry to say that, and then flip-flop on the issue and use his Vietnam experience as a major point of his campaign...
"Mr. President, you and I know that if support or opposition to the war were to become a litmus test for leadership, America would never have leaders or recover from the divisions created by that war. You and I know that if service or nonservice in the war is to become a test of qualification for high office, you would not have a Vice President, nor would you have a Secretary of Defense and our Nation would never recover from the divisions created by that war." -- Sen. John Kerry
It is just like Kerry to say that, and then flip-flop on the issue and use his Vietnam experience as a major point of his campaign...
Yes, just compare that to Mr. Bush in his flight suit on the carrier deck with the gigantic "Mission Accomplished" banner flying ... I don't think Kerry citing his war experiences -- particularly since I'm sure he's questioned on them all the time -- constitutes a "litmus test" violation.
Mr. Bush is free to talk about his military experiences or not as he sees fit, and probably oughtn't be following any political advice from Mr. Kerry anyway ...
I don't think Kerry citing his war experiences -- particularly since I'm sure he's questioned on them all the time -- constitutes a "litmus test" violation.
But dbode did use it as a "litmus test" in his quote above. In fact, it seems by his comment to be the only reason he supports Kerry. So Eddy's point is valid and relevent.
I don't think Kerry citing his war experiences -- particularly since I'm sure he's questioned on them all the time -- constitutes a "litmus test" violation.
But dbode did use it as a "litmus test" in his quote above. In fact, it seems by his comment to be the only reason he supports Kerry. So Eddy's point is valid and relevent.
Of course, what you characterize as a "litmus test" is not the only reason why I'll be voting for John Kerry. I merely relied on his military record to illustrate that Kerry is not the "tax and spend liberal" caricature that the RNC constantly paints Democratic candidates with. I'll be voting for Kerry because of his service to our country; because of his common-sense approach to foreign policy; because of his reasonable stances on domestic issues; and, ultimately, because I respect him as a man.
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I don't think Kerry citing his war experiences -- particularly since I'm sure he's questioned on them all the time -- constitutes a "litmus test" violation.
But dbode did use it as a "litmus test" in his quote above.
So you think John Kerry should determine what criteria dbode uses to form opinions?
I thought Kerry recommended against using it as a litmus test, pointing out that that would necessitate voting against the entire incumbent administration with the noteable exception of General Powell (whom we don't get to vote for anyway).
Besides, what does that have to do with whether or not Mr. Kerry is "violating" some agreement to not "recommend the use of" combat experience as a "litmus test" by responding to questions about his own experiences?
New York Times: Mr. Kerry, can you tell us something about about your experience in combat which you think makes you fit to be Commander-in-Chief?
Another thread on Kerry vs Bush. It is the political season. I didn't trust Bush Sr. and felt that "W" was embelishing the Irag engagement. Edwards is a successful Trial Lawyer so I know that he knows how to play to the crowd. Kerry's voting record is at odds with my core positions on the military and taxes. The Republicans "typically" suport the 2nd amendment which I agree with and Democrats support a woman's right to choose, which I also agree with.
Therefore, this decision will likely be made on an item that affects me every single paycheck. Democrats "generally" want to take my money and give it to someone else. Republicans "generally" want those who earn it to pay proportionately. I was dumbfounded when the tax refund was also given to those who didn't even pay it. But so is politics.
No this election is about my money and between those that feel it isn't really mine and those that understand that it is.
