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Olympus OM-D E-M5 Mark III

10/12/2011 09:55:14 AM · #1

I just noticed a brown stain on one of my objects in my apple entry. Is it allowed in advanced editing for me to select the brown color and change the color with hue/saturation? The rules say changing the color to all or any object is allowed but i'm not sure if it means the entire object can be changed, not spots on it.

If it's not legal, anyone have any other ways that are legal?

Yo_Spiff

Olympus 12-100mm f/4.0 M.Zuiko ED IS PRO

10/12/2011 10:03:36 AM · #2

It may be legal. I would suggest applying this test: Would this change the average viewers description of the scene?

10/12/2011 10:24:35 AM · #3

You could always Selective Desaturate which is legal even in Basic.

10/12/2011 10:51:01 AM · #4

thanks for the quick replies.
i think i figured out a different way that should be legal.

10/12/2011 10:53:25 AM · #5

What did you come up with? I am always willing to learn.

sjhuls

Canon EOS-7D

10/12/2011 11:05:31 AM · #6

The way I would approach this question is this: look at an object like a persons face: in advanced you wouldn't hesitate to clone out a blemish on a persons face. So why would it be any different for an apple or other objects. Of course this is not legal in basic but in advanced you may clone out minor imperfections. As long as they don't change the viewers perception of the overall scene.

It doesn't matter what tool you use, dodge, burn, clone, spot healing brush, selective desaturation(which is not legal in basic BTW) they all can be illegal or legal depending on how you use them.

10/12/2011 11:08:41 AM · #7

Originally posted by sjhuls:

selective desaturation(which is not legal in basic BTW)

Did you view the tutorial I posted?

Originally posted by sinistral_leo:

You could always Selective Desaturate which is legal even in Basic.

Message edited by author 2011-10-12 11:09:10.

Canon RF 24-70mm f/2.8 L IS

10/12/2011 11:38:06 AM · #8

selective desat'g in basic is legal if used across the entire image. i think jen meant it was illegal in the context of me selecting the object then selectively desat'g which would be illegal in basic.

what i ended up doing was selecting the entire object, converting it to b&w through the red filter in channel mixer. that neutrilized the dark spot (brownish). then used a few photo filters to recolor the object. then dodge/burn, selective color.

Originally posted by sjhuls:

put into this context. i think it might be legal since it's a blemish and correcting it doesn't change the perception for the viewer. the blemish itself does occupy more of the object than a mole or pimple on a face would though so i'll just do it the other way to be safe.

kirbic

Canon EOS R5

10/12/2011 12:01:18 PM · #9

Originally posted by Cuttooth:

Disregard any discussion of "stuff that's legal in Basic." The Basic Rules are process-based, meaning that *how* you do something may determine whether it's legal. Advanced Rules are results-based, meaning that *what* you do is important, not *how* you do it.
So, that said, the question is if you clone out the stain, is it just getting rid of a minor blemish (legal), or removing subject matter(not legal)? Bottom line, not possible to answer that without seeing the image. What you need to do is to open a ticket and ask the SC.

Message edited by author 2011-10-12 12:02:15.

10/12/2011 12:25:22 PM · #10

Originally posted by kirbic:

Originally posted by Cuttooth:
I just noticed a brown stain on one of my objects in my apple entry. Is it allowed in advanced editing for me to select the brown color and change the color with hue/saturation? The rules say changing the color to all or any object is allowed but i'm not sure if it means the entire object can be changed, not spots on it.

If it's not legal, anyone have any other ways that are legal?

Disregard any discussion of "stuff that's legal in Basic." The Basic Rules are process-based, meaning that *how* you do something may determine whether it's legal. Advanced Rules are results-based, meaning that *what* you do is important, not *how* you do it.
So, that said, the question is if you clone out the stain, is it just getting rid of a minor blemish (legal), or removing subject matter(not legal)? Bottom line, not possible to answer that without seeing the image. What you need to do is to open a ticket and ask the SC.

you're right...ticket sent.