Grog very respectful. Grog respect old ways and still practice traditional customs. Like drag females by hair to cave. If female live, then Grog know female can bear strong younglings. If female die from rocks, then female not worthy of bearing Grog's younglings. Grog go back and pick better female.
Chivalry..
My example would be dating a girl because you want to get to know her..NOT because you just want sex. So many guys are just out there for sex. That's all it's about to them. Chivalry..
Respecting a woman. Do you see what I mean? So many guys lack that trait.
Grog very respectful. Grog respect old ways and still practice traditional customs. Like drag females by hair to cave. If female live, then Grog know female can bear strong younglings. If female die from rocks, then female not worthy of bearing Grog's younglings. Grog go back and pick better female.
Haha. That's kind of an example of chivalry. Men nowadays are just after sex and it annoys the crap out of me.
Chivalry..
My example would be dating a girl because you want to get to know her..NOT because you just want sex. So many guys are just out there for sex. That's all it's about to them. Chivalry..
Respecting a woman. Do you see what I mean? So many guys lack that trait.
Hmm..I'm not sure I agree that just wanting sex counts as not being chivalrous or being disrespectful. That's just human nature, and women are just as capable of it. We're animals. We have sex. It's kinda normal.
BUT, I do get your frustration if you're looking for a meaningful relationship and not finding that.
Like that commercial where they are on a date and she's thinking, "I wonder if he's the one." and he's thinking, "I wanna sleep with her, I wanna sleep with her, I wanna sleep with her." LOL
Chivalry..
My example would be dating a girl because you want to get to know her..NOT because you just want sex. So many guys are just out there for sex. That's all it's about to them. Chivalry..
Respecting a woman. Do you see what I mean? So many guys lack that trait.
Hmm..I'm not sure I agree that just wanting sex counts as not being chivalrous or being disrespectful. That's just human nature, and women are just as capable of it. We're animals. We f*ck. It's kinda normal.
BUT, I do get your frustration if you're looking for a meaningful relationship and not finding that.
I do understand that it's natural for men, as well as women. But, yes..A meaningful relationship. That would be nice.
I was also getting to the point of how men treat women today. It's not the olden days anymore..You can't just hit a woman and get away with it. THAT is my main problem..
Like that commercial where they are on a date and she's thinking, "I wonder if he's the one." and he's thinking, "I wanna sleep with her, I wanna sleep with her, I wanna sleep with her." LOL
BTW, we are still around, it's just that some girl usually has us off the market.
Now, to be fair, often I hear this complaint from women who have significant flaws of their own, which are likely limiting the availability of "good" men... just my thoughts, nothing proven nor do I have any evidence ready to support my conclusions.
As another aside, I find that some women find it insulting when I open doors for them, as if I'm saying that they are incapable, so there's always a fine line to walk when being "chivalrous" in today's world. Largely I find that a serious split occurs somewhere around the age of about 35, with women who are older enjoying the chivalry, and the younger women being at best suspicious of it, and at worst insulted by it.
I was also getting to the point of how men treat women today. It's not the olden days anymore..You can't just hit a woman and get away with it. THAT is my main problem..
o_0 ... Sooooo, you're advocating for the old days when men could beat their wives? Somehow I don't think that came out quite right.
I was also getting to the point of how men treat women today. It's not the olden days anymore..You can't just hit a woman and get away with it. THAT is my main problem..
That's not even chivalry that you're talking about now. That's basic human decency.
I hope this isn't you or someone you know that you're talking about. :(
You gotta admit that alot of the way today's younger men treat younger women is brought on by the women.
What are those guys supposed to think when girls go around calling each other bitchs, hos, and sluts? I know this dates me but I think it's horrible. Of course guys are gonna treat women badly when they don't show respect for each other.
BTW, we are still around, it's just that some girl usually has us off the market.
Now, to be fair, often I hear this complaint from women who have significant flaws of their own, which are likely limiting the availability of "good" men... just my thoughts, nothing proven nor do I have any evidence ready to support my conclusions.
As another aside, I find that some women find it insulting when I open doors for them, as if I'm saying that they are incapable, so there's always a fine line to walk when being "chivalrous" in today's world. Largely I find that a serious split occurs somewhere around the age of about 35, with women who are older enjoying the chivalry, and the younger women being at best suspicious of it, and at worst insulted by it.
I see your point, but there are younger women in this world that enjoy chivalry..AKA me. I wish all guys had chivalry, not just the some that do.
I was also getting to the point of how men treat women today. It's not the olden days anymore..You can't just hit a woman and get away with it. THAT is my main problem..
o_0 ... Sooooo, you're advocating for the old days when men could beat their wives? Somehow I don't think that came out quite right.
You're partially right. But in the old days, men though it was right to keep "their" woman in place. They treated them like dogs..she does something wrong or something you don't like, hit her.
Not to mention the simple fact that chivalry is based upon the premise that men and women are not equal, in fact the general concept behind it is that women are inferior and need men to help them.
In my opinion, we are indeed different, but not in a superior/inferior way, more like the way milk and cookies are different, both are good and nice on their own, but when combined, they become a complete unit that functions in a more useful / more fulfilling / better way than either does alone.
I was also getting to the point of how men treat women today. It's not the olden days anymore..You can't just hit a woman and get away with it. THAT is my main problem..
That's not even chivalry that you're talking about now. That's basic human decency.
I hope this isn't you or someone you know that you're talking about. :(
"I hope this isn't you or someone you know that you're talking about. :("
You gotta admit that alot of the way today's younger men treat younger women is brought on by the women.
What are those guys supposed to think when girls go around calling each other bitchs, hos, and sluts? I know this dates me but I think it's horrible. Of course guys are gonna treat women badly when they don't show respect for each other.
Grog think Kenzi female hang out with enemy tribe. Very ungood. Enemy tribe steal best females, make them sleep outside cave, and shoot Nikon.
Not really that..It's the fact that every relationship I've been in has ended terribly. Guys don't know how to treat women anymore.
"Guys" never have ... remember it's less than a couple of centuries ago when women were considered chattel, couldn't vote or own property, etc.
And, women have changed too ... back in the early 1970's as the "Women's Liberation Movement" was catching steam in the wake the the Civil Rights changes, and women were demanding "equal treatment" from men, Herb Caen (famous San Francisco columnist) ran a piece which featured the following exchange:
A man held open a store door for a woman,
to which she snapped at him "You don't have to hold the door for me just because I'm a lady!"
To this he replied "I didn't -- I held it because I'm a gentleman."
Actually, in the Bay Area you'll find a lot of kind, considerate, caring guys ... but most of them already have boyfriends ... :-)
