I vote no to DQing either and for the reasons already given.
It would be unreasonable to expect SC to have to make decisions on whether images did or didn't meet the challenge. The extremes may be easy but there would be many, many, many that would be hard to call. It would just be unworkable.
Voters effectively deal with images that don't meet the challenge theme by voting them low. That works for me as it's a better gauge of how well an image conveys the theme to a broad audience.
1. Not DQed, because its on topic and on challenge for quite a number of people. Just because you've choosen to ignore all the posts explaining that to you doesn't help any credibility your little witch hunt might have had.
2. Not DQed. DQing for mistakes is another silly slippery slope. Oh my score is bad - it was a 'mistake' please take it off the list....
And you choose to ingnore that both have no connection what so ever to TSA. I've read all the posts about it and I have nothing to say about it except that: Why enter a blank squre into a competition for Team Sport Action, its not funny, not creative, bad experiment, boring, lame... you can Photoshop any image to turn out like that. Why waist the time of hundreds of people that take the extra time to sit down and vote on pictures that they expect to have something to do with TSA.
Originally posted by Gordon:
1. Not DQed, because its on topic and on challenge for quite a number of people. Just because you've choosen to ignore all the posts explaining that to you doesn't help any credibility your little witch hunt might have had.
2. Not DQed. DQing for mistakes is another silly slippery slope. Oh my score is bad - it was a 'mistake' please take it off the list....
And you choose to ingnore that both have no connection what so ever to TSA.
And, apparently, you choose to ignore that not meeting the challenge is not grounds for disqualification. Making it so is a very slippery slope, as we have learned from past experience.
I vote no to DQing either and for the reasons already given.
It would be unreasonable to expect SC to have to make decisions on whether images did or didn't meet the challenge. The extremes may be easy but there would be many, many, many that would be hard to call. It would just be unworkable.
Voters effectively deal with images that don't meet the challenge theme by voting them low. That works for me as it's a better gauge of how well an image conveys the theme to a broad audience.
Yep, that's what voting's for! (Believe me -- shots that are "off topic" get the low scores - as my Touch shot is demonstrating)
Other than "provable" technical reasons no shot should be disqualified (that's what DQ is for)
And you choose to ingnore that both have no connection what so ever to TSA.
And, apparently, you choose to ignore that not meeting the challenge is not grounds for disqualification. Making it so is a very slippery slope, as we have learned from past experience.
-Terry
And also that the vast majority of votes here have been no dq and no dq!
It took you what, 2 seconds to look at those photos? And how much time have you spent posting about this and demanding that they be DQed, against policy? Perhaps a re-evaluation of wasted time is necessary.
Let's say it was up to the SC to DQ photos that didn't meet the challenge. And let's look at your Fairy Tales entry. I can't think of any fairy tales off the top of my head that have swans looking at themselves in the water so I'd DQ it. Must not meet the challenge. Is that fair?
Originally posted by siggi:
there is my final saying on this:
Its just stupid to waist everyones time on a submission like that.
You have all seen things like that get out of hands and its called SPAM and most of you recive it in your mail every day.
1. Require the photographer to write a shot description how it connects to the competition when submitting, if the photographer can't come up with it how it connects then it probably dosn't and should not be part of the competition. (added so if it gets a DQ then the SC can look at this and check how the photographer sees the connection).
2. Change the rule so that it would be possible for the SC to DQ a picture for spaming a competition, unwanted submission, Correct obious subission error like the sunset picture.
Now you are just being stupid (lack of better word)!
Originally posted by mk:
...And let's look at your Fairy Tales entry. I can't think of any fairy tales off the top of my head that have swans looking at themselves in the water so I'd DQ it. Must not meet the challenge. Is that fair?
Now you are just being stupid (lack of better word)!
Originally posted by mk:
...And let's look at your Fairy Tales entry. I can't think of any fairy tales off the top of my head that have swans looking at themselves in the water so I'd DQ it. Must not meet the challenge. Is that fair?
It's not stupid at all. Where do you drawn the line for what meets the challenge and what doesn't? As Gordon has said many times, it worked fine for him. So why should it be DQed for you? It's no different with any other picture. If you want to start DQing for not meeting the challenge, that's exactly what's going to happen. Which is why it does not work and is not set up to work that way.
1. Require the photographer to write a shot description how it connects to the competition when submitting, if the photographer can't come up with it how it connects then it probably dosn't and should not be part of the competition. (added so if it gets a DQ then the SC can look at this and check how the photographer sees the connection).
2. Change the rule so that it would be possible for the SC to DQ a picture for spaming a competition, unwanted submission, Correct obious subission error like the sunset picture.
The obvious ones are easy. The non-obvious ones, not so much.
It's the non-obvious ones that are the reason this rule was scrapped when it existed in the past.
