not sure if you know about this site, I recently purchased Elements 7 (I realize you have MAC)...it has curves (not the exact same as PSCS 2,3,4,) but they have had curves since level 5 I think....but when I got my program there was a flier in the box...here it is...ck it out...there are wonderful tutorials, downloads and other creative things...several masking techniques to "fool" the system...I have gotten alot from the site already and I get a monthly publication that is ready for a binder...mind you it isn't free $89 for a 2 year membership....but so far it has really helped me alot and I find it to be worth while....//www.photoshopelementsuser.com/ ck it out...
so not to steal the thread or anything, but is it illegal to "trade" actions? never really thought about that before ..just wondering..
I am no expert. but unless it is a specific action that you have to buy...I would say no. Most of my actions come out of Steve Kirby's books and just help get smaller things done very quickly.
hmm Okay i was just wondering, cause the ones i have someone bought and gave me a copy or all of them, so I wanted to know..
so not to steal the thread or anything, but is it illegal to "trade" actions? never really thought about that before ..just wondering..
Actions belong to whoever created them, not to Adobe. If you have an action you PAID for (shareware) and "trade it to someone else, that's not cool. If the action is freeware (like almost all of them in ATNcentral, then it's not a problem.
MY first 'personal use' photoshop I got for $200 (I had it through my work before that). I was a beta tester for Elements, got a free copy of Elements for my work on the product, and when they offered a cheap upgrade to photoshop, I took it.
Now I work at a university so its really cheap. And it doesn't say anything about commercial use - it says I can't see the product commercially.
BTW - thank you for reminding me. My university if offering CS3 for $172 with a free upgrade to CS4 if I buy before 12/22. I'll have to get myself an xmas present...
I agree you own the computer but not the software, you don't actually own any software, you are purchasing the rights to use the software and that's it. Some software is tied to the machine and some to the user depending on the EULA. Most of the Adobe line is tied to the user or company that originally purchased/registered which ever the case may be and in most cases Adobe will let you transfer the license with little trouble, usually just a letter from the current registered user is sufficient.
-dave
It is something of an open question of EULAs are even legal or enforceable.
You might be interested in this article in relation to 'licensing' of software versus buying.
lol, i havent read this whole thread but i would venture to say that more people on this site have cracked versions then do not, whether they admit it or not...
OK, just finished reading the EULA for Photoshop CS4. If you qualify as a student, that is you MUST be one of the following categories:
-Students enrolled in grades K-12 at an accredited public or private primary or secondary school providing full-time instruction
-Full or part time students enrolled at higher education institutions defined as accredited public or private university or college (including community, junior or vocational college) that grants degrees requiring not less than the equivalent of two (2) years of full-time study
-Full or part time faculty and staff employed by accredited K-12 and higher education institutions.
-Other qualified examples as listed by Adobe from time to time on its Internet website or in other written communication.
Then you can use the software (with no exclusions on commercial use that I can see) while you still fall into one of the above categories. If someone else in your household falls into one of these categories, then they could use the software, but you could not.
It is quite clear from the EULA that as soon as you no longer fall into the categories, then you would need to purchase an upgrade, or cease using Photoshop.
this isn't entirely true. i do some work with Adobe - the Creative Suite 4 Student Editions have no expiration, and you can use them as long as you like, even after graduation.
Photoshop CS4 in Brazil - R$ 2.999,00 or U$1,640.59
The taxes in my country are riddiculous, this price is way more than the salary of many familys here in my country.
Lonni, I upgraded from Elements to CS3 and quite honestly it was a waste of money - there are not that many tools that I actually use versus what is available in Elements. If you check out Richard Lynch's Hidden Power of Elements you will find a way around many things. I bought CS3, because I mistakenly thought I was really missing out.
This is really impressive. I just checked it out. Thanks!
From what Adobe has told me, they treat the student/educational version the way they do a retail license. e.g. You can buy the upgrade exactly as if you bought the software at a store and you will have the full version of that software, without going back and buying the whole package again.
ETA: Perhaps the confusion comes from the fact that the student/educational version isn't eligible for the "Upgrade Plan", which is designed for large organizations to roll out upgrades uniformly across large numbers of users. So, students may buy the software through a University that gets their upgrades through the "Upgrade Plan", but the student won't get their upgrade the same way, they'll need to purchase the upgrade the same as any other user.
From what Adobe has told me, they treat the student/educational version the way they do a retail license. e.g. You can buy the upgrade exactly as if you bought the software at a store and you will have the full version of that software, without going back and buying the whole package again.
Upgrading from a student version is probably equivalent to buying prescription drugs from Canada. Technically wrong? Yes. Smart idea? Probably. I believe it's against your EULA to upgrade from a student version, but it's entirely possible to do so.
From what Adobe has told me, they treat the student/educational version the way they do a retail license. e.g. You can buy the upgrade exactly as if you bought the software at a store and you will have the full version of that software, without going back and buying the whole package again.
Upgrading from a student version is probably equivalent to buying prescription drugs from Canada. Technically wrong? Yes. Smart idea? Probably. I believe it's against your EULA to upgrade from a student version, but it's entirely possible to do so.
Actually, it's detailed in the Adobe FAQ for the student licensing. Not only is it not contrary to the EULA, Adobe encourages students to take advantage of it.
Actually, it's detailed in the Adobe FAQ for the student licensing. Not only is it not contrary to the EULA, Adobe encourages students to take advantage of it.
Maybe if it wasn't a monopoly.. the price wouldn't be so high:P
It's not a monopoly. There is lots of competition, though they have trouble making Adobe sweat. The Adobe products have become a defacto standard and expected tool of pros. Many people need to use it to have compatibility with all the others.
