what the heck is the point in step resizing? just shrink the image to the specs you want it at :-P as the rules state ONCE :-)
In earlier editions of Photoshop, you could significantly improve the clarity of a resized image by resizing in 10% increments instead of all at once. A lot of us used to do that. With the newer versions, the resizing algorithms do a much better job, and I have stopped worrying about it.
1. Take a photograph using an original Jpeg image.
2. No editing allowed except to:
a. Rotate your image in 90 deg increments.
b. Sharpen using only the "sharpen" tool. But you can only sharpen one time and other sharpening tools are not allowed.
c. Resize from Original to 640x. But can only be done in one step.
d. fully desaturate your image using your editing software’s “desaturate,” “convert to grayscale” or equivalent function. Customizable tools are not allowed.
3. use any feature of your camera while photographing your entry, with the exception of combining multiple captures in-camera.
B- is incorrect in saying you can use the sharpen only one time --- you can infact use it more than once because they forgot to put in the rule-set as sharpen only once (tho it is preferable that it is done only once- its a technicality)
Since the rules are "trial", I'd like to put in my 2 cents about the sharpening part of this....
All of the "basic" editing programs I have do not have a regualar "sharpen" button - they are all customizable. Even in Elements, the only "sharpen" available is Unsharp Mast and "Adjust Sharpness". I think that redoing the rules to accomodate this would be in order since the only "sharpen" button seems to be in the non-minimal Photoshop.
All of the "basic" editing programs I have do not have a regualar "sharpen" button - they are all customizable. Even in Elements, the only "sharpen" available is Unsharp Mast and "Adjust Sharpness".
From the PS Elements manual: "The Adjust Sharpness dialog box has sharpening controls not available with the Sharpen tool or with Auto Sharpen." Sounds like the latter two options would be legal in Minimal Editing.
Cross posted from the Minimal Editing Admin Announcement thread:
Since the Minimal ruleset was first announced, we've seen an increase in the post-processing features available in-camera. For example, some cameras can now apply filters/effects after the actual capture. These new features available on some cameras introduced a contradiction within the Minimal ruleset as written -- because they said that you could use any feature of your camera except multiple exposures.
The preamble to ruleset has been amended to better reflect the spirit of the ruleset: "Restrictions on post-processing apply to ALL edits performed after the image is captured, whether on a computer or with in-camera tools."
Please note: pre-capture settings on whatever camera you have are still fair game.
I think it is important to realize the purpose of the rules when trying to decide if a certain tool is or should be legal or not.
I admit this is my personal opinion on the purpose of the rules. I believe the purpose of this rule set is to remove the gap between those good with editing skills, photoshop, dozens of commercial plug-ins, etc. from those who only have free or shareware tools and little to no editing experience.
Therefore the tools and processes used to post-process your photograph should be the tools and processes available to everyone. Making the challenge about the photo and the skills of the photographer, not their computer skills.
I think it is important to realize the purpose of the rules when trying to decide if a certain tool is or should be legal or not.
I admit this is my personal opinion on the purpose of the rules. I believe the purpose of this rule set is to remove the gap between those good with editing skills, photoshop, dozens of commercial plug-ins, etc. from those who only have free or shareware tools and little to no editing experience.
Therefore the tools and processes used to post-process your photograph should be the tools and processes available to everyone. Making the challenge about the photo and the skills of the photographer, not their computer skills.
Anyone disagree?
I disagree. The purpose of the ruleset is to see how we do with NO EDITING WHATSOEVER. Not "the tools and processes available to everyone" but no tools and processes whatsoever...
Yes this seems to be focused on whether you can actually frame and compose a good photograph at the time its taken(IE hold it level, compose it properly, choose correct exposure and focus). This is kind of like taking photos with those old disc cameras with no adjustments, crops or anything, the photo was either good or it wasn't.
I agree with the "no editing whatsoever", which is why I don't see why "sharpening" is allowed....
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by togtog:
I think it is important to realize the purpose of the rules when trying to decide if a certain tool is or should be legal or not.
I admit this is my personal opinion on the purpose of the rules. I believe the purpose of this rule set is to remove the gap between those good with editing skills, photoshop, dozens of commercial plug-ins, etc. from those who only have free or shareware tools and little to no editing experience.
Therefore the tools and processes used to post-process your photograph should be the tools and processes available to everyone. Making the challenge about the photo and the skills of the photographer, not their computer skills.
Anyone disagree?
I disagree. The purpose of the ruleset is to see how we do with NO EDITING WHATSOEVER. Not "the tools and processes available to everyone" but no tools and processes whatsoever...
I agree with the "no editing whatsoever", which is why I don't see why "sharpening" is allowed....
Because we require the photo to be resized before submission, which usually has a negative effect regarding maintaining detail, so basic sharpening is allowed to try to make the reduced image come closer to the original.
Ok, I tried looking through the admin thread regarding these rules, but at 17 pages, my eyes were going buggy and I didn't see the question I'm going to ask.
Is flipping the image horizontally and/or vertically acceptable?
Ok, I tried looking through the admin thread regarding these rules, but at 17 pages, my eyes were going buggy and I didn't see the question I'm going to ask.
Is flipping the image horizontally and/or vertically acceptable?
Nope -- you'll have to take your shot using a mirror.
