If you don't vote under four for a photo that, in your opinion deserves it, then you a propping up that image artificially.
Isn't it better to just vote honestly? Voting 1-3 is NOT troll voting in any way shape or form -- unless that it all you vote.
I have given them out, but not as much lately. a 1-3 is utter failure, IMO. In school, if you get half the words right on a spelling test you get a 50. Still failing, but it's not a 10 or 20. The act of getting out there, shooting, processing, entering, and putting yourself out here to be slammed by simple minded people that like to hand out low votes usually gets you a 5 in my book. If someone enters an image in the wrong challenge, I choose not to vote on those since it was a mistake. If someone is obviously going for the "brown" I don't vote those up or down, I just pass.
i think we should all just take a chance!
cant people experiment around here without being worried about a disqualification?
experimentation leads to learning and eventually to some really cool pictures.
if we're all worried about getting a low score because its not technically a ''duotone'',
wouldnt that just hold us back and not let us have fun with it?
If you really want to create a technically-legal photo but want a monotone, just put it in duotone mode and set one of the tone curves to zero for all values, or make both inks the same color, or just to a similar color.
When Ansel Adams' images are produced in bulk by offset printing (for calendars and such) they print a quadtone using four different gray inks. Using two versions of the same color can add some "depth" to the image while still looking monochromatic.
I'm really not sure someone would be sophisticated enough to tell the difference between a sepia using color balance and a sepia using duotone without dragging it into PS and looking for true blacks.
Sooooo if i shoot a photo in sepia or B&W i'll be good? I don't get what everyone is fussing about. I'd like to enter but not sure what we're supposed to do. I looked at the past challenges and I see B&W or Sepia. So is there a difference?
So, tech PS (CS2) question to see if my photo would be legal...
If a photo is greyscale (converted using Channel Mixer route) and then tinted using Colour Balance, but with different settings for shadows, midtones and highlights, is it still definitely a duotone?
I guess I should be able to tell by looking at it, but I can't - it looks fine but I'm not sure whether I have now introduced more than (2? 3?) colours into it...
PaintShopPro doesn't have a nice little duotone "button." :)
Sooooooo, convert to bw and add a color hue?
I'm sure you would do just fine with this technique. It's sorta silly in the end to argue about the technicalities of duotone for the challenge when no actual ink is being used. I can't think of an appropriate analogy, but I'm sure someone can.
I bet a great B&W shot will do just fine. It may attract a few boo-birds, but in general will do fine. If you want to be safe, add a tint to the B&W shot and you will be just grand no matter what technique you used to get there.
So, tech PS (CS2) question to see if my photo would be legal...
If a photo is greyscale (converted using Channel Mixer route) and then tinted using Colour Balance, but with different settings for shadows, midtones and highlights, is it still definitely a duotone?
I guess I should be able to tell by looking at it, but I can't - it looks fine but I'm not sure whether I have now introduced more than (2? 3?) colours into it...
So, tech PS (CS2) question to see if my photo would be legal...
If a photo is greyscale (converted using Channel Mixer route) and then tinted using Colour Balance, but with different settings for shadows, midtones and highlights, is it still definitely a duotone?
I guess I should be able to tell by looking at it, but I can't - it looks fine but I'm not sure whether I have now introduced more than (2? 3?) colours into it...
Thoughts?
Answers? Anyone? anyone? Bueller? Anyone?
I think you will be alright. I think following the Doc's prescription will be fine. I used color balance to tone my image.
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
I bet a great B&W shot will do just fine. It may attract a few boo-birds, but in general will do fine. If you want to be safe, add a tint to the B&W shot and you will be just grand no matter what technique you used to get there.
Good grief, I just have no idea what you guys are talking about!!! Duotone to me (the complete ignoramous layman) is a colour and then whites/another shade of white. So when I start voting I'll be looking for hues of blue on dark greys/blacks, or hues of brown on blacks and so on... The iconic duotone for me is a Sepia picture and everything that represents... tending to agree that a B+W is not a duotone as such, but I won't be picky in looking for those top 10.... if it's brilliant it will get the score.
As far a "duo" goes... in my book a sepai isn't really a duotone anyway because to get brown you have to mix reds and yellows and blacks and all sorts... :-)
But I speaketh for the average Jo voter here, who won't know how many colours went into the channel mix to get that duotone look.
Please clarify what exactly is meant by "legal" - is there a DQ for processing in this challenge? Or are we talking "DQ" in the voter's eyes and not official DQing from the council?
This is what I did: I greyscaled in PS. Then in Channel Mixer I pushed the red,yellows and blues etc up and down until I got my "sepia" look... am I within "legal" boundaries for this challenge??? Someone please confirm.