I say we try to set up a transaction, get the police involved, and when they go to Western Union to pick up their money, BAM!!! they get arrested for fraud. And then the police delivers them to those they have robbed, handcuffed, and walk away for about three hours. I would love to spend even five minutes with those @$$H*!!$.
Not likely to work.
Western Union Money Transfers need not be picked up at any specific office. In addition, the transfers are typically picked up in overseas countries, and in many cases the clerks are in on the fraud.
In cases where the money transfers are picked up in the US, the person picking it up is usually someone unrelated to the fraud. Typically they are someone hired (usually via online job sites) as a "correspondence manager" to process and resend mail and payments. There people are usually duped into believing they are performing honest work for an overseas company and have no knowledge of the fraud they are helping to complete.
OMG...that is them. They even say Elsider in their FAQ's. My husband is currently on the phone with the people who are hosting their site. He is trying to get the site taken down. I know it will not do anything, they will simply set up shop again but at least it may save someone else from being ripped off.
The information they gave to the webhost appears to be bogus as well. We are now in contact with the legal department for their webhost in the hope we can shut them down. They also made a posting to the epinions.com thread that Qwest30 posted and one of the administrators for epinions has their IP address which we will pass on to the authorities. Thanks so much for all the help everyone! As far as going to their brooklyn address, the address is bogus. Each time they register a domain name, they use a random name and address. They use a real persons details but that person usually has no idea they are listed as the administrative contact until they get loads of phone calls from people that have ordered.
Just on a seperate note, when I spoke to Bank of America on the telephone, I made it clear that the money was sent Western Union but they said that because I used my visa debit card to do the transaction I was covered. I can see why they would want their money back though as the service by Western Union was performed by them, so they have no way of getting the money back from them.
Just on a seperate note, when I spoke to Bank of America on the telephone, I made it clear that the money was sent Western Union but they said that because I used my visa debit card to do the transaction I was covered. I can see why they would want their money back though as the service by Western Union was performed by them, so they have no way of getting the money back from them.
Hey! I sent resellerratings.com an email today saying that the chemobtiton (sp) used to be elsider.com and they were a fraud....they emailed back and asked for any details....she said chemobiotin had just listed with resellerratings.com recently. You should email them and let them know. When I emailed her back I said a friend (didn't want to tell her someone on DPC) had just got ripped from elsider and I didn't think you had made a 'copy' of their website as you didn't know they were a ripoff.
EDIT TO ADD: I just posted the chembiotin.com as an AKA to elsider.com to the epinions.com that was little a few posts back :)
Just on a seperate note, when I spoke to Bank of America on the telephone, I made it clear that the money was sent Western Union but they said that because I used my visa debit card to do the transaction I was covered. I can see why they would want their money back though as the service by Western Union was performed by them, so they have no way of getting the money back from them.
Hey! I sent resellerratings.com an email today saying that the chemobtiton (sp) used to be elsider.com and they were a fraud....they emailed back and asked for any details....she said chemobiotin had just listed with resellerratings.com recently. You should email them and let them know. When I emailed her back I said a friend (didn't want to tell her someone on DPC) had just got ripped from elsider and I didn't think you had made a 'copy' of their website as you didn't know they were a ripoff.
Thanks Coyla, I will go send them an e-mail now. I am also posting their new name in my store review of Elsider.
BEWARE!!! These clowns are now posted on"shoppiing.com" There new name is "Chembiotin"! I trust the BULLDOGS on this site will bring these SCHIESTERS down quickly! I stumbled on this site doing some research on this highly suspect retailer-UH-scammers.
That is what they do. They get listed on the comparison sites (which is where I saw them). I am now getting blocked, so I have a feeling they are watching this thread. A couple of other people got the google search site, which is exactly what happened to us with their Elsider.com website. (funnily enough other people could access their site..just not us) They block IP addresses of anyone who can bother them.
Kellocity.com is a fraud too? 5D for 2100.00.... very tempting
They look like the same kind of company, although their website is a little different. They only accept Western Union and E-gold but they do have a telephone contact number which Elsider.com did not have.
Coyla, I posted a reply to your review on epinion.com
I went to the Better Business Bureau to file a complaint as well but would you belive that their link to file a complaint does not work! LOL
I think someone posted this earlier....I read back but couldn't find it...but I know I read it somewhere.....it's for reporting these kinds of things to the FBI here in the US.
Thanks for the link..that one worked. They just do not allow complaints for Italy. I went to the site that they recommended and left a complaint there.
I just copied and pasted the addy from above and i get the google search page instead of the site....wonder why that is
I can still access it. If anyone needs info from the page, just yell.
I am not sure what I will need from the site but thanks for the offer. So far no-one has needed anything sent from the site itself, only my correspondence with Elsider.
