I would choose the EOS-1D Mark II because of it's shooting speed. 8.5fps is amazing.
I choose the D2x because it can go 8 fps as well...but when you go 8fps with it, it can also make your 200mm lens a 400mm!!..or your 400mm an 800mm!!!
I've heard that the noise compaired to the 1DII is not great. Also it only goes up to iso 800 iirc. The resolving power is nice, but you almost never need that much. the 2x crop mode also brings the rez down to ~6.5mp right? Using a 2.0 setting is going to be asking too much from your lenses and will hurt sharpness and resolving power. Also the main body of the camera is 1.5x crop, which is not the greatest for wide angle lenses. However, the 1.3x crop suffers from the lack of zooms in the super wide ranges atm.
... Using a 2.0 setting is going to be asking too much from your lenses and will hurt sharpness and resolving power. ...
I don't understand this. How does a different crop factor change the quality of the image you get out of any given lens?
It uses a smaller amount of the lens glass and therefore it doesn't get as much detail. I didn't understand how much of a difference it made until I upgraded to a 1.3x camera and noticed a huge improvement from all my lenses.
btw, it also has to do with the pixel pitch of the sensor... the 20D being the most compacted of all the canon DSLRs currently.
Mine of course! But that is only because it is the onjly one I get to use.
I read some of the answers here and have read some threads like this before...I think it really is up to the user, what they want it for and what they hope to achieve with it. What is best for me may not be best for you. But that does not necessarily make one camera better than another. Like the thread not too long ago about the number of megapixels and what you paid for the camera. It is all what the user hopes/expects to get out of it that makes the camera worth something, especially to be called the 'best.' I know I can take certain shots significantly better with the Sony - an inferior camera to the 20D - but I also know that if I get my stuff together and learn and apply that the 20D can produce far superior images. So which is the better camera? The one I know I can shoot with now or the one I know I will be able to shoot better with in the future?
I would choose the EOS-1D Mark II because of it's shooting speed. 8.5fps is amazing.
I choose the D2x because it can go 8 fps as well...but when you go 8fps with it, it can also make your 200mm lens a 400mm!!..or your 400mm an 800mm!!!
I've heard that the noise compaired to the 1DII is not great. Also it only goes up to iso 800 iirc. The resolving power is nice, but you almost never need that much. the 2x crop mode also brings the rez down to ~6.5mp right? Using a 2.0 setting is going to be asking too much from your lenses and will hurt sharpness and resolving power. Also the main body of the camera is 1.5x crop, which is not the greatest for wide angle lenses. However, the 1.3x crop suffers from the lack of zooms in the super wide ranges atm.
The sensor is specified for ISO 100-800, but the camera includes options for 1600 and 3200 ("H1" and "H2") that you need to enable in the custom settings menu for some reason.
Check out the DPReview review of the D2X and look at the comparison with the 1DsII for yourself. They are very, very similar in image quality.
I would choose the EOS-1D Mark II because of it's shooting speed. 8.5fps is amazing.
I choose the D2x because it can go 8 fps as well...but when you go 8fps with it, it can also make your 200mm lens a 400mm!!..or your 400mm an 800mm!!!
I've heard that the noise compaired to the 1DII is not great. Also it only goes up to iso 800 iirc. The resolving power is nice, but you almost never need that much. the 2x crop mode also brings the rez down to ~6.5mp right? Using a 2.0 setting is going to be asking too much from your lenses and will hurt sharpness and resolving power. Also the main body of the camera is 1.5x crop, which is not the greatest for wide angle lenses. However, the 1.3x crop suffers from the lack of zooms in the super wide ranges atm.
The sensor is specified for ISO 100-800, but the camera includes options for 1600 and 3200 ("H1" and "H2") that you need to enable in the custom settings menu for some reason.
Check out the DPReview review of the D2X and look at the comparison with the 1DsII for yourself. They are very, very similar in image quality.
I read it when it was released long ago. There are a few things that make the compairisons iffy. The Nikon has a prime lens on it... a 50mm lens. The Canon has a Zoom L (at 70mm). Sure they were stopped down, but there will be differences obviouosly when compairing these. The nikon noise is only compaired visually to the 1DsII (which also is NOT known for it's great low noise). These compairisons also only show the nikon vs the canon while using it's noise reduction, which seems to significantly reduce detail to my eyes. Also I still don't believe you can compair the 1DsII and the D2X fairly as they are worlds apart in sensor size. Feel free to challenge anything I've said, if i'm wrong about something I'd like to know it.
btw: the reason for disabling 1600 and 3200 in standard modes is probably for similar reasons to why 100 and 3200 on the 1D are enabled in a similar way... There is noticable color loss, and less dynamic range. I cannot confirm this for the D2X but I do know it for the 1D and for the nikon D2H.
OK, a bit of a branch-off from the original thread, I would like to ask, what is the best ultra compact digital camera? I know nothing beats an SLR, but I need something which I can put in my jeans pocket. Thanks
Are you serious? D'oh, I never noticed before...
Anyway, a 1000 megapixel camera would be interesting. But it's cumbersome to change the hard disc after every shot :)
"The nikon noise is only compaired visually to the 1DsII (which also is NOT known for it's great low noise)."
If I'm going to pay the 14k for a 1Ds I'd expect low noise! Is the noise better on a 1D??? The two reasons to upgrade for me are low noise at high ISO and wide angle (wider than 28mm, the wider the better).
Personally I'm a fan of my F828 - there are few more fun cameras to play with for me. It has it's annoyances, but hey!
